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Old 09-16-2011, 08:38 PM
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need [4] new or used pistons for a 352 V-8 [year 58 to 66]...CH 1.816 ....flat top....thanks Kent ...662-721-2601
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need [4] new or used pistons for a 352 V-8 [year 58 to 66]...CH 1.816 ....flat top....thanks Kent ...662-721-2601
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COAZ-6108-A .. 352 Piston-Standard 'Red' / Obsolete

1958/67 Galaxie/LTD / 1965/67 F100/350.

MILLER OBSOLETE PARTS in Binghamton NY has 3 = 607-722-5371.

WESLEY OBSOLETE PARTS in Liberty KY has 3 = 606-787-5293.

GREEN SALES CO. in Cincinnati OH has 9 = 800-543-4959.
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Old 09-16-2011, 10:01 PM
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I can't imagine needing 4 pistons for a 352 and posting a request expecting to get an answer, unless you are planning to make ashtrays.

Even so, NumberDummy spent his time putting together a list of where to find NOS standard size pistons. That info may be useless to you.

You need to back up and first have your blocked checked to determine if it will need to be bored.

If you need four pistons , I can just about guarantee that whatever has caused this need is enough of a problem that the result will likely be that the block is going to need to be bored.

Then, with that info you can ask. You are probably going to need pistons at least .020 oversize, maybe .030 to .060 if the block is worn.

Of course, then you will actually need 8 pistons.
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Old 09-16-2011, 10:11 PM
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Or, you can do what I did with the 352 in my '65 F100. Bore the puppy to 390 standard, install 390 pistons, crank and rods...add dual exhausts, a 4V manifold and carb from a 1965/71 390/428 Passenger Car.
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Old 09-16-2011, 10:19 PM
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i have (7) 390 .040 pistons from 1967 mercury cyclone "s" code ....it needed one but I just bought a set of 8 since it was torn own....
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i have (7) 390 .040 pistons from 1967 mercury cyclone "s" code ....it needed one but I just bought a set of 8 since it was torn own....
Hmmm...You're already .050" over with a 390, add the extra .040" and you get .090" overbore. Not sure a 352 can take that.

Now that I think about it I seem to recall some discussion about a core shift on some 352 casting's?. You might be lucky to get that .060". Maybe someone who's been into Ford engines longer than I have can shed further light on that as soon as we get this guy some pistons.
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Hmmm...You're already .050" over with a 390, add the extra .040" and you get .090" overbore. Not sure a 352 can take that.
The FE Blocks started as a 332 with a 4.0 bore and the largest was a 427 with a 4.232 bore, so they can take 4.090 easily. Without changing the stroke he gets a 352 bored out to 367. Of course if you bore it and stroke it to the max you get a 448. If you are going to go, go big!!! (This from a guy driving a 240 I6!!! )
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Hmmm...You're already .050" over with a 390, add the extra .040" and you get .090" overbore. Not sure a 352 can take that.

Now that I think about it I seem to recall some discussion about a core shift on some 352's?. You might be lucky to get that .060". Maybe someone who's been into Ford engines longer than I have can shed further light on that as soon as we get this guy some pistons.
A guy I know did exactly that, bored a 352 in a 1967 F350 to .090." The truck overheated every time he went up a hill. In an attempt to fix the issue 'on the cheap' he installed a sprayer...didn't help much.

I had a 428 from a '66 Bird layin' around out back, told him it needed to be bored .020." I gave it to him, he had the work done, the truck never boiled its mud again.
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The FE Blocks started as a 332 with a 4.0 bore and the largest was a 427 with a 4.232 bore, so they can take 4.090 easily. Without changing the stroke he gets a 352 bored out to 367. Of course if you bore it and stroke it to the max you get a 448. If you are going to go, go big!!! (This from a guy driving a 240 I6!!! )

The 352 and the 390 share the same block casting but the cylinder sleeve is different.. My 352 could only be bored to 4.060 max! To bore it anymore would make the sleeve to thin and weak! I know this because I had discussed this with my machine shop friend when I did my build up.... I wanted the 390 also...... bore it and stroke it, the 352 uses a different piston also... try to find 352 pistions, and then try to find 390 pistons... you will find a lot of 390 pistons, but very few 352 pistons
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Kent,
I'd bet it would be easier/quicker to simply locate a decent 390 and go from there.
There's a good chance you could even locate a running 390, then you'd be fairly certain that the block/heads/crank/rods weren't cracked, warped and/or bent.

If you're determined to use your 352 block, there is a 'sonic-test' that your machine shop can do or get done for you to check the cylinder wall thicknesses. Then based on the thinnest cylinder wall, you'll know just how far you can overbore all the bores to match the thinnest one.

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The FE Blocks started as a 332 with a 4.0 bore and the largest was a 427 with a 4.232 bore, so they can take 4.090 easily. Without changing the stroke he gets a 352 bored out to 367. Of course if you bore it and stroke it to the max you get a 448. If you are going to go, go big!!! (This from a guy driving a 240 I6!!! )
Bum,

I know a Chevy 265 or 283 cannot be bored out to a 400 even though they are the same physical outside size. I don't know about a Ford, maybe you are right.

I also recall an article that related a form shift that occurred in the casting process on some engine blocks that would not allow a large overbore due to wall minimum thickness being exceeded. I may be full of beans about that, but a shop can test before they bore -see post by BarnieTrk above.
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Any bore over .060 on the 352 is asking for trouble. To meet the 390 it will be .050 over just under the line. however there is no further rebuilding capacity on the block.

360s make a great foundation with the reverse 105 block as they are the same bore as the 390s much easier and cheaper to find.

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Any bore over .060 on the 352 is asking for trouble. To meet the 390 it will be .050 over just under the line. however there is no further rebuilding capacity on the block.

360s make a great foundation with the reverse 105 block as they are the same bore as the 390s much easier and cheaper to find.

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All good info, Garbz!
Thanks for sharing!
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All 1968/76 360/390 blocks are the same (bare: C8TZ-6010-G / short: C8TZ-6009-G). Doesn't make a bit of difference if the block is marked 105...or not.

The bore is the same (4.05"), the only difference is the pistons, crank and rods because the 360's stroke (3.50") is different than a 390 (3.78").
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You can also run 360 pistons in a 390 for higher compression, right?
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