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Old Sep 2, 2011 | 03:59 PM
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lash in distributor shaft

I'm trying to nail the cause of a stumbling/surging in my 75 300/IL6, especially at idle. There seems to be a lot of lash in my dist shaft. The shaft itself, the whole dist unit, is new. I can turn the rotor button or the stator from 12 o'clock to 1 o'clock (15 degrees), which I think is more than normal. Is it? I have watched the button while cranking the engine by hand, and it moves as soon as I turn the crank, which suggests the timing gears are not the culprit. I'm thinking it might be the gear that drives the shaft. Should I be able to turn the button this much? and if not, what is the likely cause of the play?
 
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Old Sep 2, 2011 | 05:51 PM
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Thinking about it after, I realized that I should have held the button while turning the crank by hand, and indeed there's a lot of play there, so it could be the timing gears (I understand there's no chain in this engine). I guess I'll pull the cover off and have a look at them.
 
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Old Sep 2, 2011 | 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by JoeHarbourJets
I'm trying to nail the cause of a stumbling/surging in my 75 300/IL6, especially at idle. There seems to be a lot of lash in my dist shaft. The shaft itself, the whole dist unit, is new. I can turn the rotor button or the stator from 12 o'clock to 1 o'clock (15 degrees), which I think is more than normal. Is it? I have watched the button while cranking the engine by hand, and it moves as soon as I turn the crank, which suggests the timing gears are not the culprit. I'm thinking it might be the gear that drives the shaft. Should I be able to turn the button this much? and if not, what is the likely cause of the play?
Your distributor has vacuum advance correct? I don't think 15deg. is exessive movement for advance plate. timing gear? do you mean gear on dist? You would not be able to move the camshaft by turning rotor.

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This movement in the distributor shaft is normal.
This is the mechanical advance.
 
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Old Sep 2, 2011 | 11:13 PM
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OK, makes sense. Thanks.
 
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Old Sep 3, 2011 | 06:08 AM
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To check for slack in timing chain, watch rotor and rotate crankshaft back and forth with a socket and breaker bar. Watch for how much you have to move crank before rotor starts to move.
 
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When I turned the crank with a socket before, I turned it only one way (clockwise). When I did it again today, I tried it in both directions, which I've since learned is the right way to do it, and found that, once the distributor starts turning, if I reverse direction, the crank will turn maybe 15 degrees or more before the dist starts turning again. I understand these engines (the IL6 300) don't have a timing chain, but a direct gear set-up. Does the result of my test suggest wear on these gears?
 
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