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I'm trying to nail the cause of a stumbling/surging in my 75 300/IL6, especially at idle. There seems to be a lot of lash in my dist shaft. The shaft itself, the whole dist unit, is new. I can turn the rotor button or the stator from 12 o'clock to 1 o'clock (15 degrees), which I think is more than normal. Is it? I have watched the button while cranking the engine by hand, and it moves as soon as I turn the crank, which suggests the timing gears are not the culprit. I'm thinking it might be the gear that drives the shaft. Should I be able to turn the button this much? and if not, what is the likely cause of the play?
Thinking about it after, I realized that I should have held the button while turning the crank by hand, and indeed there's a lot of play there, so it could be the timing gears (I understand there's no chain in this engine). I guess I'll pull the cover off and have a look at them.
I'm trying to nail the cause of a stumbling/surging in my 75 300/IL6, especially at idle. There seems to be a lot of lash in my dist shaft. The shaft itself, the whole dist unit, is new. I can turn the rotor button or the stator from 12 o'clock to 1 o'clock (15 degrees), which I think is more than normal. Is it? I have watched the button while cranking the engine by hand, and it moves as soon as I turn the crank, which suggests the timing gears are not the culprit. I'm thinking it might be the gear that drives the shaft. Should I be able to turn the button this much? and if not, what is the likely cause of the play?
Your distributor has vacuum advance correct? I don't think 15deg. is exessive movement for advance plate. timing gear? do you mean gear on dist? You would not be able to move the camshaft by turning rotor.
To check for slack in timing chain, watch rotor and rotate crankshaft back and forth with a socket and breaker bar. Watch for how much you have to move crank before rotor starts to move.
When I turned the crank with a socket before, I turned it only one way (clockwise). When I did it again today, I tried it in both directions, which I've since learned is the right way to do it, and found that, once the distributor starts turning, if I reverse direction, the crank will turn maybe 15 degrees or more before the dist starts turning again. I understand these engines (the IL6 300) don't have a timing chain, but a direct gear set-up. Does the result of my test suggest wear on these gears?