air injection and smog pump delete
i know you can get ride of the smog pump and run a shorter belt but what all do you have to do to get rid of it? is it just a matter of unbolting it? do you have to cap anything off? im going to try and do it when i replace my core support and would like to know before hand what parts i need so i can go ahead and get them.
also i read on another thread about the air injection system delete? what gains and losses am i going to see from this? and what all is involved in that as well?
also i read on another thread about the air injection system delete? what gains and losses am i going to see from this? and what all is involved in that as well?
Its not the same as the EGR system.
Here is how to do it on the 89 to 96 302 set up and a simplified explanation of what of what it does I made a ways back:
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...l#post19042519
i know you can get ride of the smog pump and run a shorter belt but what all do you have to do to get rid of it? is it just a matter of unbolting it? do you have to cap anything off? im going to try and do it when i replace my core support and would like to know before hand what parts i need so i can go ahead and get them.
also i read on another thread about the air injection system delete? what gains and losses am i going to see from this? and what all is involved in that as well?
also i read on another thread about the air injection system delete? what gains and losses am i going to see from this? and what all is involved in that as well?
Its an emissions system yes but it also keeps your engine running cooler and thus better mileage and better for it all around.
Its a huge pain to remove it and it will throw codes to the PCM which will try and compensate for the change in exhaust and air intake readings resulting.
They sell a chip you can plug into the sensor it plugs into but I've read a lot of problems with this too.
The smog system is a secondary air pull system that adds fresh air into your exhaust stream. Essentially the addition of air helps the exhaust burn the hydrocarbons more efficiently as they dwell in the eshaust system before exiting to the atmosphere.
This system too doesnt really have any detrimental side effects to performace but it doesnt add anything either like the EGR does.
UNLESS you have broken hoses or leaks in the system especially behind the block with the vacumm lines going to the check valve etc.
I pulled mine out because I love having as much room in the engine bay as possible.....and mine was leaking in a couple spots lol
It's really a matter of how in depth you want to go. On my 460, I removed the air pump, hoses, and valve. Redid my vacuum harness to remove line to valve, and capped off that port. You may also have to plug your manifolds, where the lines go in. Since i completely re-did my exhaust I did not have to deal with that. I just run a shorter belt. Only about 250 mes so far, but, no issues.
Do NOT delete the EGR. It is a separate system not directly related to air injection.
Again my 460 may be different than your small block. You may have to plug your heads, I did not have that issue on my 460, as the air injection went to a single bung on my manifolds, that i replaced with a Banks exhaust system. Hope this helps. It sounds confusing at first, but, take some time to look at the system, wires, pipe, vacuum lines, and it will make more sense.
i know you can get ride of the smog pump and run a shorter belt but what all do you have to do to get rid of it? is it just a matter of unbolting it? do you have to cap anything off? im going to try and do it when i replace my core support and would like to know before hand what parts i need so i can go ahead and get them.
also i read on another thread about the air injection system delete? what gains and losses am i going to see from this? and what all is involved in that as well?
also i read on another thread about the air injection system delete? what gains and losses am i going to see from this? and what all is involved in that as well?
deleting the smog system will cause less drag on the engine due to not having to turn as many pulleys with the belt which frees up a small amount of power and mpgs, it also makes the engine run healthier because injecting exhaust gas into the engine causes faster engine wear, poor fuel economy, and yes power loss. The cleaner and cooler the air/fuel mix is the better the engine will run so I’d absolutely remove it just like I do with cats because restrictions cause the same issues
EGR also improves low/part throttle fuel efficiency, as it displaces a portion of the air-fuel charge with inert gas, effectively reducing displacement. As torq stated above, the "smog" and EGR systems are two different animals.
i know you can get ride of the smog pump and run a shorter belt but what all do you have to do to get rid of it? is it just a matter of unbolting it? do you have to cap anything off? im going to try and do it when i replace my core support and would like to know before hand what parts i need so i can go ahead and get them.
also i read on another thread about the air injection system delete? what gains and losses am i going to see from this? and what all is involved in that as well?
also i read on another thread about the air injection system delete? what gains and losses am i going to see from this? and what all is involved in that as well?
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...e-project.html
If you are not running headers, you will see in this write up where you have to plug the factory manifolds. There will also be a plug at the catalytic converter you will need to figure out.
I now have several thousand miles on this delete, including 3 trips over Snoqualmie pass, towing our 9,000 pound 5th wheel, with no issues.
This is my link on the air pump delete, hope it helps, and yes, if done right, you can delete the entire air pump assembly. I am assuming by smog pump and air delete, you are using different terms for the same thing?
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...e-project.html
If you are not running headers, you will see in this write up where you have to plug the factory manifolds. There will also be a plug at the catalytic converter you will need to figure out.
I now have several thousand miles on this delete, including 3 trips over Snoqualmie pass, towing our 9,000 pound 5th wheel, with no issues.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...e-project.html
If you are not running headers, you will see in this write up where you have to plug the factory manifolds. There will also be a plug at the catalytic converter you will need to figure out.
I now have several thousand miles on this delete, including 3 trips over Snoqualmie pass, towing our 9,000 pound 5th wheel, with no issues.
302/351 have tubes running into the heads you have to plug the heads, Van E-series heads are already plugged.
[Truck: 1982 F250 HD, non-catalyst but with with Thermactor & EGR]
And, when in open loop(cold), O2 is not being used. The Thermactor system will divert air depending on engine temp, and many other variables.
provide better oxidation of the exhaust gas mixture when a richer exhaust gas
mixture is anticipated. It is not possible to operate in closed loop fuel
control while air is introduced upstream (the EGO sensor may always indicate
a lean condition)."
Cats tad tab
Yeah there are two seperate "smog" systems on these motors, the EGR and the Thermactor(air injection). The EGR is the smaller/tidier system consisting of just 1 valve and a short steel hose between the exhaust manifold(5.8) or the lower intake(5.0), there is also a control solenoid(EVR) over by the coil that is connected to the EGR valve with a vacuum line. This system recirculates a small amount of exhaust gas back into the engine and it cannot be removed without setting a code.
The thermactor system consists of an air pump, two diverter valves, two control solenoids(TAB and TAD) over by the coil, and a mess of steel and rubber hoses that connect the pump to motor and the cats. This system is designed to supply fresh air to the cats to help them burn off excess hydrocarbons, and all this can be removed without affecting engine operation or setting a code but it won't make any difference to power output.
The thermactor system consists of an air pump, two diverter valves, two control solenoids(TAB and TAD) over by the coil, and a mess of steel and rubber hoses that connect the pump to motor and the cats. This system is designed to supply fresh air to the cats to help them burn off excess hydrocarbons, and all this can be removed without affecting engine operation or setting a code but it won't make any difference to power output.
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