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Old May 23, 2011 | 07:54 PM
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Pending HID Installation

I just received HID kit and plan on installing it this week. This is the kit:

55W H13 9008 DIGITAL BIXENON HID LIFE WARRANTY, Coming in at about $165. My buddy has them on his 2006 SD and they are incredible.

Searching the threads, I haven't seen much on HID installation and was wondering if anyone has some tips. Thanks to Epic's video's, I'll be able to get into the head lights to install the bulbs, but I'm wondering if anyone has any ideas, or have had any problems installing the ballast(s). Thanks in advance for your input.
 
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Old May 23, 2011 | 08:40 PM
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This is very interesting. I have also been searching and having found much out there for these trucks. I am really interested to see how they work for you. Looking at the website, they appear to be at the higher end of the replacement bulb and ballast market.
 
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Old May 23, 2011 | 08:56 PM
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I have a set for both the headlights and the driving lamps.I LOVE them both. One tip mount the balast as far away from water as possible I have had to replace two of them because I left them to close to the lower bumper area even though behind the bumper still a very bad idea. Add wiring if if you need to but keep them in behind the headlights for better protection.
 
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Old May 23, 2011 | 09:09 PM
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Most of us are using the DDM Tuning kit. You may want to check out their Raptor kit. I believe it is the same as the kit you bought but can be had for about half that cost. Check out the mounting bracket for the Raptor -- look familiar? DDM Tuning : HID Kits

There are only a few overseas manufacturers of these kits. Pricing varies.

Also the Raptors are a fairly thick ballast box. We are using the slim line. Epic squeezed his behind the light. I put mine on the cross member for the engine compartment.
 
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Old May 26, 2011 | 01:47 PM
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Update, after doing a little more research, I decided to exchange my 55W 10000K kit for a 55W 6000K set. Word on the street indicates that "Americas Finest" are attracted to the blue color of the 10000K bulbs. The 6000K are just supposed to be cool white. Speaking of America's Finest, has anyone, been pulled over just because of the brightness and color of their HID's? On the HID Planet Forum, that "HID Kits" installed in vehicles designed to work with halogen technology is illegal in North America and Europe. But, then I call my local shop, and they say there should be no problem?
 
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Old May 26, 2011 | 08:51 PM
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So by changing out your H 13 bulb with this hid light you loose your high beam filament too right? And even if you had it, you cant turn this off or there are start problems right?

I am using a bright box so i can light up both high and low filaments in the H13 bulb and have my driving lights on both low and high beam. I have not seen a kit to tell if they can make that much light without interfering with on coming traffic. Atlast i can turn off the high beam filament. I am running a higher output bulb as well in the H13 socket.

PS can you let us know how this works for various situations, like low and high, also if you end up doing the 35 watt fog HID lights too?
 

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Old May 27, 2011 | 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by mhoefer
So by changing out your H 13 bulb with this hid light you loose your high beam filament too right? And even if you had it, you cant turn this off or there are start problems right?

I am using a bright box so i can light up both high and low filaments in the H13 bulb and have my driving lights on both low and high beam. I have not seen a kit to tell if they can make that much light without interfering with on coming traffic. Atlast i can turn off the high beam filament. I am running a higher output bulb as well in the H13 socket.

PS can you let us know how this works for various situations, like low and high, also if you end up doing the 35 watt fog HID lights too?
These H13 kits have hi/lo capabilities just like e standard H13 halogen bulbs. There is a electromagnet solenoid built into the base that will switch from hi to lo or vice versa.
 
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Old May 27, 2011 | 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by dixoncity
Update, after doing a little more research, I decided to exchange my 55W 10000K kit for a 55W 6000K set. Word on the street indicates that "Americas Finest" are attracted to the blue color of the 10000K bulbs. The 6000K are just supposed to be cool white. Speaking of America's Finest, has anyone, been pulled over just because of the brightness and color of their HID's? On the HID Planet Forum, that "HID Kits" installed in vehicles designed to work with halogen technology is illegal in North America and Europe. But, then I call my local shop, and they say there should be no problem?
These lights have been under scrutiny by the DOT and NHSTA but technically are not illegal at this point. That said, several states are failing these inspections because the HID lights are design for use in projector housings. There is a lot of errant light emitted from my HID setup which forced me to lower these quite a bit to avoid being flashed.

As for the color, most of the blue runners tend to be in rice burners and other cars that I believe draw the attention of the LEO community. I tried a set of blue bulbs that were sent to me by accident. They really limit the amount of visible light.
 
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Old May 27, 2011 | 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Marauder92V
These lights have been under scrutiny by the DOT and NHSTA but technically are not illegal at this point. That said, several states are failing these inspections because the HID lights are design for use in projector housings. There is a lot of errant light emitted from my HID setup which forced me to lower these quite a bit to avoid being flashed.

As for the color, most of the blue runners tend to be in rice burners and other cars that I believe draw the attention of the LEO community. I tried a set of blue bulbs that were sent to me by accident. They really limit the amount of visible light.
While I agree that the attention drawer for LEO is the blue bulbs and you should not have much of a issue if you run a whiter bulb, my understanding is that HID conversion kits do not/can not meet Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards for headlights and there for would be illegal.

Under FMVSS 108 Section S7.7 (replacement light sources), each replaceable light source for headlamps must be designed to conform to the dimensions and electrical specifications for the headlamp source it is intended to replace.
 
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Originally Posted by PowerStrokeHD
While I agree that the attention drawer for LEO is the blue bulbs and you should not have much of a issue if you run a whiter bulb, my understanding is that HID conversion kits do not/can not meet Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards for headlights and there for would be illegal.

Under FMVSS 108 Section S7.7 (replacement light sources), each replaceable light source for headlamps must be designed to conform to the dimensions and electrical specifications for the headlamp source it is intended to replace.
This is one of the points the lawmakers are debating. The bulbs themselves can and usually are DOT compliant for a specific application (i.e. in a projector housing designed for the vehicle). Many of the vendors of the kits will tell you they are legal -- technically yes, for the bulb. They become illegal when
they don't comply with FMVSS 108 and are installed in housings designed for halogen lamps.

The other area is the amount of actual candlepower being emitted. 32 candlepower is the maximum allowable output I suspect some of these kits exceed this.

My biggest problem has been the errant glare. When I do purchase projector housings for these lamps, technically they would be illegal unless the manufacturer complies with the reg.

In the real world, most authorities don't have an issue unless the color is off a lot and the glare doesn't catch their attention. If you have ever driven by a car designed for HID, you still do periodically get hit with glare under certain conditions.
 
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Old May 27, 2011 | 10:09 PM
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Thx so both hi and low are active but can they be run together on high like I do with Britebox?

I am trying decide if I should go hid h13 and driving lights and be able to switch all on on high beam and low with drv lights.
 
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