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Old May 7, 2011 | 08:08 PM
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brakes smoking

my f250 is having some serious brake issues. after smelling a burning rubber smell yesterday i called my garage and told them, they said to bring it in . well I brought it in last evening, when i got their the brakes were smoking, i was actually looking for water to put on them i was afraid their would be flames starting to come from my rear tire. it is just one side on the rear with the problem. today the shop called me and said they could not find any problems, they expected to find a frozen caliper or something but they said the brakes looked fine. They are thinking maybe changing the brake hose on that side could fix it, but noone had a brake hose for my truck in stock today, so it will have to wait til monday. does anyone here have any experience with this, and any direction I can tell the garage to pursue?

Its an 06 f250 cc lariat 4x4 with 5.4
 
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Old May 7, 2011 | 08:11 PM
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Im really not trying to be a wise guy here.. but when you were driving it did it "feel" like the brakes we on... like they were dragging? And of course... are you sure the E-Brake was not on... (not that Ive done that before).
 
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Old May 7, 2011 | 08:13 PM
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BTW.... the brake hose theory sounds like a shot in the dark to me... did they explain why they thought the hose might be a problem?
 
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Old May 7, 2011 | 08:18 PM
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Their thinking is sometimes the hose can get clogged or swell, and shut off the flow of fluid to the brakes.
 
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Old May 7, 2011 | 08:32 PM
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Smoking brakes is indicative of the pad dragging on the rotor for an extended time. First thought that came to mind was frozen caliper slide pin. It's a known issue on the 05-07 brakes. I'd ask if they checked the slide pins of the caliper in question.

The E brake is a possibility as well as it could be stuck. I haven't really heard of an issue with the E brake but there's always a first time.
 
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Old May 7, 2011 | 09:57 PM
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If the caliper is good I would check the wheel bearing...
 
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Old May 7, 2011 | 10:04 PM
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Hmmm.... for the brakes to get SO hot they would make you think they were going to burst into flames seems to me would be indicative of something more than a dragging brake pad. How did the brake pads look? How about the E Brake Shoes?
 
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Old May 7, 2011 | 10:36 PM
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dmen, you never said anything about how many miles on the brakes or previous brake repairs but....I pushed the rear brakes to the limit before replacing at 118Kmi. By then the discs were worn enough to be replaced also, calipers seemed ok. So with new OEM pads and rotors I thought I would be all set for another 118Kmi. Not to be, at about 122Kmi smoke from the rt rear. Took another look at the rt caliper everthing seemed to be ok. Drove again for another 1,000 miles, again same problem right rear brakes smoking. The problem appeared to be an intermittent sticking caliper piston on the right side requiring caliper rebuild. Could not find a seal kit for the caliper so replaced it with rebuilt. Not sure but problem could be related to Ford using phenolic pistons from what I heard.

My '95 Olds has 285Kmi on original calipers never had to do anything with them other then clean off brake dust, just new pads and occasional rotor. The calipers do have steel pistons though. It seems the Fords are not designed for the LONG haul IMHO!
 
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Old May 7, 2011 | 10:48 PM
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I agree that either the caliper is dragging[sticky piston or slide pins] or it could be the E-brake is sticking.
 
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Old May 7, 2011 | 10:56 PM
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problematic slide pins and ebrake issues are easy enough to spot with a physical inspection with a little wiggling of the caliper and rotating the wheel assembly, it is the intermittant sticking caliper piston that is difficult to isolate without disasembly of the caliper, then you might as well rebuild anyways esp if you have over 100Kmi on them!
 
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Old May 8, 2011 | 01:52 AM
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dmen, you never said anything about how many miles on the brakes or previous brake repairs but....I pushed the rear brakes to the limit before replacing at 118Kmi. By then the discs were worn enough to be replaced also, calipers seemed ok. So with new OEM pads and rotors I thought I would be all set for another 118Kmi. Not to be, at about 122Kmi smoke from the rt rear. Took another look at the rt caliper everthing seemed to be ok. Drove again for another 1,000 miles, again same problem right rear brakes smoking. The problem appeared to be an intermittent sticking caliper piston on the right side requiring caliper rebuild. Could not find a seal kit for the caliper so replaced it with rebuilt. Not sure but problem could be related to Ford using phenolic pistons from what I heard.

My '95 Olds has 285Kmi on original calipers never had to do anything with them other then clean off brake dust, just new pads and occasional rotor. The calipers do have steel pistons though. It seems the Fords are not designed for the LONG haul IMHO!
X-2.... Have ran into the same problem with phenolic pistons..The other possibility I have heard of, is the swollen brake hose, it won't let the pressure bleed off. If you replace the calipers go for the steel ones..
 
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Old May 8, 2011 | 06:36 AM
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dmen, you never said anything about how many miles on the brakes or previous brake repairs but....I pushed the rear brakes to the limit before replacing at 118Kmi. By then the discs were worn enough to be replaced also, calipers seemed ok. So with new OEM pads and rotors I thought I would be all set for another 118Kmi. Not to be, at about 122Kmi smoke from the rt rear. Took another look at the rt caliper everthing seemed to be ok. Drove again for another 1,000 miles, again same problem right rear brakes smoking. The problem appeared to be an intermittent sticking caliper piston on the right side requiring caliper rebuild. Could not find a seal kit for the caliper so replaced it with rebuilt. Not sure but problem could be related to Ford using phenolic pistons from what I heard.

My '95 Olds has 285Kmi on original calipers never had to do anything with them other then clean off brake dust, just new pads and occasional rotor. The calipers do have steel pistons though. It seems the Fords are not designed for the LONG haul IMHO!
I had the rear brakes including calipers replaced about 10k miles ago
 
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