Power steering conversion 66 F100
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Power steering conversion 66 F100
Obviously I will need a power steering box, high pressure hose, return hose, pump, brackets, belt and resivoir.
The motor is an fe so any fe based brackets will work.. but from which years can I use the power steering box and lines? Is there any modification needed to be done to use my existing steering column?
All help is appreciated.
The motor is an fe so any fe based brackets will work.. but from which years can I use the power steering box and lines? Is there any modification needed to be done to use my existing steering column?
All help is appreciated.
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Oh yeah, Beany-boy.
First, more info. Are you going Bendix as original, or the later Ford Saginaw box? Do you have an auto, 3 or 4 speed?
If you use the later Ford box as I suspect, you will need several additional column parts if you choose to return things to looking original.
Let us know what you have and we can be of more help. Also use the search feature, there are articles on the swap.
First, more info. Are you going Bendix as original, or the later Ford Saginaw box? Do you have an auto, 3 or 4 speed?
If you use the later Ford box as I suspect, you will need several additional column parts if you choose to return things to looking original.
Let us know what you have and we can be of more help. Also use the search feature, there are articles on the swap.
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Um, not quite. There is no "standard" or single set of FE brackets. I know from experience of at least 6 different pulley/bracket arrangements for FEs - and little was the same between them. You would be well advised to harvest a complete pulley and bracket setup from an FE that has everything you want. Don't forget A/C, because even if you do not want it now, you will have to replace the whole setup to get A/C if all you get now is a P/S setup only.
Look for the PS box, brackets, pulleys and all from '70 - 79 trucks. It all bolts up.
Your steering column will have to be shortened. For a 3-on-the-tree, this is difficult. For an automatic, it is much easier to use '68-'72 column, which bolts up, but it isn't original. Another option is to use a very, very rare '73 - '79 3-speed manual shift column for power steering, or use one from the same years for automatics. If you have a 4-speed on the floor, you can easily shorten your existing column.
Use the search function for more information, especially on the Bendix option mentioned by Greg - but it is one most consider to be inferior, unless you are doing a correct restoration or upgrade.
Look for the PS box, brackets, pulleys and all from '70 - 79 trucks. It all bolts up.
Use the search function for more information, especially on the Bendix option mentioned by Greg - but it is one most consider to be inferior, unless you are doing a correct restoration or upgrade.
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if you have a 3-on-the-tree, this is a good time to think about switching to a floor shift.
in the 67-72 trucks, the motor mount perches are different between p/s and non p/s trucks, but i've never done this swap in a '66, so i don't know if that applies here.
in the 67-72 trucks, the motor mount perches are different between p/s and non p/s trucks, but i've never done this swap in a '66, so i don't know if that applies here.
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Oh yeah, Beany-boy.
First, more info. Are you going Bendix as original, or the later Ford Saginaw box? Do you have an auto, 3 or 4 speed?
If you use the later Ford box as I suspect, you will need several additional column parts if you choose to return things to looking original.
Let us know what you have and we can be of more help. Also use the search feature, there are articles on the swap.
First, more info. Are you going Bendix as original, or the later Ford Saginaw box? Do you have an auto, 3 or 4 speed?
If you use the later Ford box as I suspect, you will need several additional column parts if you choose to return things to looking original.
Let us know what you have and we can be of more help. Also use the search feature, there are articles on the swap.
Doesn't matter to me as long as it works
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The Bendix PS box was used to middle or so of '69. NumberDummy has posted the exact VIN of the changeover.
The Ford box replaced it, and was used up to '79. I have had both, and prefer by far the Ford box.
If you use the Bendix, you do not need to change either the motor mounts or the steering column.
If you use the Ford steering box, you must change the driver's side engine perch (or cut it) AND you will have to eliminate the heat riser valve under the driver's side exhaust manifold.
It was these changes that prompted me to use the Bendix box at first, but after all was said done, I wished I had followed others' advice and made the changes and gone with the Ford box. Go to the trouble to make the exhaust changes and all, and you will be much further ahead.
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If you do indeed use the Bendix box, you will need the steering shaft out of a column (or shorten yours) from a 66-early 69 power steering truck. I simply took the shaft from a 68 power steering trucks column and installed it in my '66 column. Otherwise your steering wheel will sit about an inch away from the column.
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I see something mentioned about brackets and there being different ones for engines even the same line of them. I have an in-line 300 and need to know what bracket to use for my conversion. Would the bracket off of any 300 work? I'm not worried about A/C since I am 100% positive the truck will never have it added by me and I'm not worried what happens if and when I ever sell it.
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get the driver's-side perch as well, and you should be all set.
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I'm getting ready to do the swap in my '65 (352 4sp).
My buddy gave me everything I needed to do it when I bought the truck from him. Everything came out of a '71.
FoMoCo Pump and brackets
Motor Mount Perch
Steering column setup for an automatic (I'm changing the collar from my column)
Steering gear
Hoses
Cooler
I'll be documenting the installation with pictures in the next few weeks. I'm buying a new/reman steering gear and pump and using the old stuff as cores. I don't want to go through all of the trouble of the install and have to change it out soon.
My buddy gave me everything I needed to do it when I bought the truck from him. Everything came out of a '71.
FoMoCo Pump and brackets
Motor Mount Perch
Steering column setup for an automatic (I'm changing the collar from my column)
Steering gear
Hoses
Cooler
I'll be documenting the installation with pictures in the next few weeks. I'm buying a new/reman steering gear and pump and using the old stuff as cores. I don't want to go through all of the trouble of the install and have to change it out soon.
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Jeff is correct. switching to a Bendix box, your steering wheel will set around 1" closer to your body. Those going with the later PS box, will find that steering wheel about 3" closer to you. I found this out when I installed the later ford box years ago. I ended up removing my column and cutting 3" out of the middle of it and welding it all back together. Works perfect for me. If I had to do it over, I might have even cut out 4". Make up for this expanding front end I find growing on me. :O( Gives ya a whole lot more room in front of ya.
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I am so glad this popped up today. I am having to rebuild my column, and replace the steering gear. So this is an opportune time to look at possibly putting power steering in. I have a 240 6 Cylinder, and a 3 speed on the column, and I want to keep both. Given a choice of losing the 3 on the tree for power steering would not be a choice I would take. I'll keep the manual steering, to keep the 3 on the tree.
I am considering going to a pick a part place and buying all the brackets, pump, and pulley. Then getting the rebuilt Gear, replacement pump, and new hoses.
Will this work?? Is this going to effect my column? Would trading out the rag joint for a universal joint change things at all??
I am considering going to a pick a part place and buying all the brackets, pump, and pulley. Then getting the rebuilt Gear, replacement pump, and new hoses.
Will this work?? Is this going to effect my column? Would trading out the rag joint for a universal joint change things at all??
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my understanding is that to keep the 3-on-the-tree, you'll have to use the Bendix box. they're harder to find than the Ford box. and you'll need to shorten your existing steering shaft, or find one from a late 60's power steering truck that had the Bendix box to begin with (details on this a few posts up.)
i can't swear by this, as i wasn't keeping the column shifter when i did my swap.
i can't swear by this, as i wasn't keeping the column shifter when i did my swap.
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