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Old Apr 13, 2011 | 01:40 AM
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Old Apr 13, 2011 | 02:04 AM
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Originally Posted by bulldogchief
Selective enforcement is not new. I agree this does seem to illegaly target African- Americans but bikers have been dealing with it as well (selective enforcement) Georgia and New York operate random "motorcycle only" checkpoints which obviously is selective enforcement and harrassment.
I would say it is selective because of major mechanical design differences. Would you want a semi truck mechanic to inspect your motorbike or vice versa? I would want someone that works on bikes all day to inspect bikes, just like the Semi trucks get inspected by big rig mechanics. The steering and controls of a bike are a totally different design from semis/trucks/cars/vans/4x4s. Checkpoints for motorbikes and Semis require quite a different amount of space to be pulled to the side of the road safely as well...
 
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Old Apr 13, 2011 | 02:26 AM
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Originally Posted by 85e150six4mtod
Still, what's up with confiscating a car on some BS code that it's "unsafe". I've seen several of these around here, and they seem to drive and handle just fine. Just as well as a PU on 40s for sure.

I see plenty of cars with rims that are too small, or front wheel drive cars with deep dish rims that make it dart all over the road. Pop them babies, leave the big wheels alone as long as they are stable.

jmo, hope my 32" tires on my brand x truck don't make me a target....
they seem to handle fine just looking at them but were the modifications done correctly?

bigger tire diameter increases your turn radius, big enough tires will hit your vehicles frame or body before you run out of steering travel in the vehicles suspension geometry.

bigger tires/wheels also weigh more than stock sizes, adding more unsprung weight degrades handling, that is why aluminum wheels are a popular option for manufacturers, it is a relatively cheap way to increase handling of their vehicles while also making the vehicle look better.

hubcaps on vehicles used to be made out of metal, now they are plastic because they are cheaper and they weigh less, increasing profits, handling and fuel mileage of new vehicles.

that pickup on 40s required a suspension lift(and maybe a body lift as well) and different shocks and if just the stock shocks were left on there, that truck would be unsafe as its braking distance would now be increased, taking longer to stop. the same holds true for cars with bigger tires/wheel combos that exceed the stock tire diameter.
 
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Old Apr 13, 2011 | 02:44 AM
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Originally Posted by bulldogchief
Agreed. I hate 'em too but if Cincy is gonna insist it's a safety thing, they will have to start impounding EVERY vehicle with wheels 20 inches or bigger...anything less can and most likely will be challenged as racial profiling and struck down.
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I wonder the safety as far as the angles and stress on the car. I have never been around one up close to see, but would the ball joints and control arm have enough travel? I also see many with 3 inch or more spacers bolted to the hubs to mount the rims. It seems like added stress to the studs for the lugs.

But I do think they have a valid point. They should be after the lowered and lifted cars and trucks to see that they are modded correctly. As far as I know though, there is no standard for such conversions. If there were, none of us could afford to make our autos our own.
where I live here, a unsafe looking vehicle is stopped and if it looks unsafe it gets a VI notice(vehicle inspection), the owner has 30 days to fix the vehicle and bring it to an inspector(any mechanic shop that has a guy certified to inspect). I don't see why Cinncinaty would have to impound the car, they probably just need more revenue because enough people aren't speeding.

IIRC front suspension geometry, at least on rwd vehicles-not sure about fwd, uses the ackerman angle(I think) to determine proper operating angles for everything, and it gets scaled up or down for small cars or semi trucks.


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I don't see how this works since many cars and trucks are coming from the factory now with 20"+ rims...

Sounds like BS to me.
those are factory designed 20+ rims with safety issues in mind beforehand, it will say on a doorjam or door sticker what the factory size tire wheel combo is, usually along with the GVWR and payload info, so for newer vehicles those owners would be safe from being impounded, I would think.
 
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Old Apr 13, 2011 | 02:46 AM
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How about scrapping speed limits and inspecting EVERY vehicle on the road to make sure it is safely capable of going it's top speed and Increasing driver training to that of finland: YouTube - Top Gear Mika Hakkinen

Why didn't my driver training courses include time on a skidpad like the above!?

let's not pave the world, let's learn to drive on it!

Inspecting every car would become the new gold mine of traffic enforcement, generating more revenue than speed infractions as every car has something that could be fixed, and if you had upgraded components of your car you should get a break on your insurance because you had made the car safer!

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Old Apr 13, 2011 | 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by four-sixty-power
I would say it is selective because of major mechanical design differences. Would you want a semi truck mechanic to inspect your motorbike or vice versa? I would want someone that works on bikes all day to inspect bikes, just like the Semi trucks get inspected by big rig mechanics. The steering and controls of a bike are a totally different design from semis/trucks/cars/vans/4x4s. Checkpoints for motorbikes and Semis require quite a different amount of space to be pulled to the side of the road safely as well...
You really should read before posting. The majority of those motorcycle stops do NOT concern safety. I've ridden in upstate New York and have seen the cops confiscating bikes "on suspicion" because the serial number on the frame and the engine do not match. I've been through this up there...my HD back then was a 2003 100th Anniversary Edition...and even though I was wearing the required safety gear (a helmet, to be exact) and was obeying all traffic laws, they threatened to impound my bike because I was "riding in an un-safe manner" and my helmet was "not strapped tight enough"...both of those allegations were BS then and they are BS now.

The only reason they let me go was because I made a comment on how they were treating military personnel (I was active duty back then) and I had my cell phone out and was calling my lawyer...in front of about three dozen witnesses and my bike had a current safety inspection sticker from Virginia...and anybody who has ever lived in Virginia will tell you vehicle inspectors there are VERY thorough.

This does NOT concern safety. It is harassment from people who do not like bikers and automatically assume every person on a motorcycle is a criminal...and down here in the USA there is a little thing we like to call FREEDOM.
 
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Old Apr 15, 2011 | 12:02 AM
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Originally Posted by bulldogchief
Selective enforcement is not new.
I agree.

Originally Posted by bulldogchief
I agree this does seem to illegaly target African- Americans but bikers have been dealing with it as well (selective enforcement)
I agree again.

Originally Posted by bulldogchief
Georgia and New York operate random "motorcycle only" checkpoints which obviously is selective enforcement and harrassment.
I refuted this point, which because of how you worded it suggested to me that you thought "motorcycle only" checkpoints are harrassment. I suggested it could be for mechancial reasons.

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Old Apr 15, 2011 | 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by four-sixty-power
I refuted this point, which because of how you worded it suggested to me that you thought "motorcycle only" checkpoints are harrassment. I suggested it could be for mechancial reasons.

I cahn reed reeely gud, si?
"Motorcycle Only Checkpoints" are indeed harassment. Motorcycles, just like cars and trucks are required to be inspected every year down here. A "MOCP" is singling bikers out for harassment.

That's why I said you really should read...maybe I should've said you should COMPREHEND what you are reading...no?

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Old Apr 15, 2011 | 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by bulldogchief
"Motorcycle Only Checkpoints" are indeed harassment. Motorcycles, just like cars and trucks are required to be inspected every year down here. A "MOCP" is singling bikers out for harassment.

That's why I said you really should read...maybe I should've said you should COMPREHEND what you are reading...no?

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Old Apr 15, 2011 | 01:41 PM
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OUCH!!!
Too much?
 
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Old Apr 15, 2011 | 01:45 PM
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Too much?

Myself...I think it was just enough to get your point across, Anything more would have been blatantly rude and uncalled for...COMPREHEND??
 
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Old Apr 15, 2011 | 01:55 PM
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I'd love to shove a pipe or a 2X4 in this dirt-bag's spokes while he's driving.. I could imagine how hard he would $#it his baggy pants.
 
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Old Apr 16, 2011 | 04:12 PM
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I'd rather see them forced to pull up their pants.
Exactly, I agree with you 100%.
A lot of good points in this thread have been made.
 
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Old Apr 19, 2011 | 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by bulldogchief
"Motorcycle Only Checkpoints" are indeed harassment. Motorcycles, just like cars and trucks are required to be inspected every year down here. A "MOCP" is singling bikers out for harassment.

That's why I said you really should read...maybe I should've said you should COMPREHEND what you are reading...no?

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Re-read post #37.
 
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