Acetylene shortage?
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turbo torch type. MC tank strapped into a 5 gal bucket. Most of what I braze/solder is under 7/8 o.d. so it works ok and it's easy to carry. I do own a small oxy-actyelene torch that I have thought about using (with the right tips it would be much better to work with). Never got around to it.
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I don't know what I'd do without 5-gallon buckets.
If you post the make and model of your OA regs AND torch I can probably tell you if it's compatible with propane. (Per Victor tech support all of theirs are.)
Many acetylene heating tips work with propane, and you don't have to worry about overdraw with cutting using small cylinders like a 5-lb "camping" jug. Propane heating tips are available for the name brand torches of course.
You could get an adapter for your turbo-torch regulator to fit a CGA-510 line and try your tips with propane. The actual "turbo torch" tips between gases are very similar and even share some orifices.
I don't have any on-hand to play with or I'd experiment for the heck of it.
You can also use a regular welding regulator with the HVAC torch if you wish.
If you post the make and model of your OA regs AND torch I can probably tell you if it's compatible with propane. (Per Victor tech support all of theirs are.)
Many acetylene heating tips work with propane, and you don't have to worry about overdraw with cutting using small cylinders like a 5-lb "camping" jug. Propane heating tips are available for the name brand torches of course.
You could get an adapter for your turbo-torch regulator to fit a CGA-510 line and try your tips with propane. The actual "turbo torch" tips between gases are very similar and even share some orifices.
I don't have any on-hand to play with or I'd experiment for the heck of it.
You can also use a regular welding regulator with the HVAC torch if you wish.
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This is my personal torch
Portable Welding Torch Kit w/ Tanks
The carrier is different. I bought it something like 5 years ago.
Work supplied air acetylene torch is some form of a prestolite torch. All I can tell you is it's been around for a while (15ish years?).
My personal torch tanks are full at the moment.
As far as work goes, it's my boss's call. For the moment, we have enough.
I have been following this.
Acetylene: Possible shortage - HVAC-Talk: Heating, Air & Refrigeration Discussion
Portable Welding Torch Kit w/ Tanks
The carrier is different. I bought it something like 5 years ago.
Work supplied air acetylene torch is some form of a prestolite torch. All I can tell you is it's been around for a while (15ish years?).
My personal torch tanks are full at the moment.
As far as work goes, it's my boss's call. For the moment, we have enough.
I have been following this.
Acetylene: Possible shortage - HVAC-Talk: Heating, Air & Refrigeration Discussion
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For Chicago Electric best to phone their tech support on the regulator compatibility with other gases.
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if you just want to cut and heat take a look at "petro-gen" boss bought one just before i changed jobs 16 years ago,so i never got to actually play with it. seemed like a good idea, looked like it should hold up pretty good.
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The Petrogens cost about 1700 bucks an outfit.
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That means it pays for demolition and scrapping where you can get a quick return on investment. If I had a scrapyard I'd order one along with some oxygen lances and be able to blow away most anything because time is money.
The economics for small business and hobby use favor oxy-propane/propylene/chemtane since many such users won't spend that much over many years of use.
You could buy a new Victor Journeyman etc and have about 1200 dollars left over for propane and oxygen. Rent or buy an oxygen cylinder and use a BBQ jug for cutting. Gaseous fuels can also be used for soldering, brazing, and precision heating.
There's not much point in comparing Petrogen with acetylene because acetylene isn't necessary for cutting, just welding. LP/propylene/chemtane/etc are much cheaper for pure cutting and can be turned on and off instantly.
I'll grab a used Petrogen to play with one day because they are interesting, but even though I cut a fair amount I don't see a new one paying for itself (quickly) outside of intensive use.
The economics for small business and hobby use favor oxy-propane/propylene/chemtane since many such users won't spend that much over many years of use.
You could buy a new Victor Journeyman etc and have about 1200 dollars left over for propane and oxygen. Rent or buy an oxygen cylinder and use a BBQ jug for cutting. Gaseous fuels can also be used for soldering, brazing, and precision heating.
There's not much point in comparing Petrogen with acetylene because acetylene isn't necessary for cutting, just welding. LP/propylene/chemtane/etc are much cheaper for pure cutting and can be turned on and off instantly.
I'll grab a used Petrogen to play with one day because they are interesting, but even though I cut a fair amount I don't see a new one paying for itself (quickly) outside of intensive use.
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