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Old Feb 28, 2011 | 04:05 PM
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Yeah i think im jst gonna throw in a custom turbo kit in it. I have some neighbers that are all racers and most of them have turbos, so im going to see if they could find me one or sell me one maybe they can show me how to make it and all. So yeeah its my first truck i dont want it to be a fast truck i just want it to pick up fast cause its not too slow but I would like it to be faster. What do yall think bout a turbo?
Better have a lot of money, and find yourself a daily driver
 
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Old Feb 28, 2011 | 05:09 PM
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haha yeeah im thinking twice, maybe swap out the engine for a 351w?
 
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Old Feb 28, 2011 | 05:25 PM
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Just leave the 300 in there, unmodded. It will come in very handy dragging all those other cars with aftermarket turbos back home, after they 'splode the motor.........
 
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Old Feb 28, 2011 | 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by 1981 F_100
accelerate faster like be able to burnout and stuff
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haha yeah im thinking twice, maybe swap out the engine for a 351w?
If you want acceleration and burnouts then yes, the best thing you could do is swap the 6 for a V8.

Don't get me wrong, the 300 is an awesome truck engine (had one in my '71). However, it is a straight 6 that is designed for torque because it is designed as a truck engine. If you want your truck to do something it wasn't designed for (burnouts and stuff) then you need to put a V8 in it and be done. For the money you'd spend building up the 300 you could get a V8 out of a junker car, dress it up, install it and have money left over for all the gas you want to burn doing burn outs (and tires).
 
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Old Feb 28, 2011 | 06:04 PM
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If he can't handle swapping intakes, carbs and adding headers then a engine swap may be over his head too.

A 300 should have no problem doing a burn out in a F150 unless you are running some huge tires on it.
 
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Old Feb 28, 2011 | 07:19 PM
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I don't think this guy is listening...
 
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Old Feb 28, 2011 | 07:40 PM
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I don't mean to sound like an ass, but if you don't even know what the third member of your rear axle is, you aren't ready to be doing any work to your truck, let alone an engine swap.
 
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Old Feb 28, 2011 | 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by 1981 F_100
i wish i could do something easier, im 14 and im more than half way done i jst want it to be faster
Oh man, I just caught that.

At 14, shouldn't you learn to drive first, BEFORE you become a racer??

I know I'm gonna get slammed for this, but come on dude, there isn't a state in the Union that issues driver's licenses at that age.

Fix your truck, make it pretty, learn to drive, and get a job. After you've done all that for a few years, THEN maybe you can start thinking about "go fast" stuff.

Stop for a moment and think about that mother and her three kids in that SUV you are barreling down on. They deserve a chance too....
 
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Old Feb 28, 2011 | 07:59 PM
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I don't mean to sound like an ass, but if you don't even know what the third member of your rear axle is, you aren't ready to be doing any work to your truck, let alone an engine swap.

He just needs someone with a little more knowledge to help him with it. We all started somewhere.
 
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Old Feb 28, 2011 | 08:09 PM
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Personally I would take it slow man. Since you are 14 (I'm 19 btw) I do remember what it was like to be able to drive. You are fortunate (really you are) in that you can take your sweet time and make your truck perfect. I would get hooked up with some people who know stuff about motors, and get some books. Read everything you can.
I don't hangout with too many guys in my age group, I usually hangout with guys 30+ years of age. Why? Largely because they have done interesting things in life, they know all kinds of stuff I want to learn and get better at, mechanics, welding, cnc, home building, truck driving, etc etc. Guys my age group care about drinking and getting chicks sure thats nice and I've done my share of it but I'd rather do something productive with my life that is tangible and I can see and appreciate. When I started me restore/build of my 1984 Ford F250HD, I had a decent idea about engines lifts, paint, electrical etc. However, since I joined this site I am getting better at performance parts, rebuilding motors, painting, lifting etc. It just takes time. I suspect I've spent tens, maybe even hundreds of hours looking over builds, comparing them to my needs, asking questions and making a realistic plan and budget for what I want and need. Do that and you will have a sweet truck. Trust me the time and hours I've spent on my truck and everything I've learned about it have been many times funner than all my "activities" in high school. Doing a restoration on a truck is something that can be appreciated and especially so a custom truck is something that can never be matched.

When I was younger I was prepared to break the bank for a nice custom restored daily driver that someone did in some flavor, dodge, chevy ford etc. I then realized that I could not only get the same truck cheaper, I would gain knowledge and appreciate the fact that I did it all.

If it tells you how much work I've done, its been atleast 20-30 hours on removing me interior/fenders, hood, windows, doors etc. Another 20 hours-30 hours on interior prep/paint (seats etc), another 20 hours or so of sanding on my truck, roughly 10-20 hours in engine work. I still have about 20 hours to go in putting everything back together, 20 hours for my lift, 10-15 hours for my stereo system, and then pry 5 hours for my kc lights/alternator upgrades. I will also have 10-20 hours in my overdrive unit, and pry 20-50 hours in installing and tuning my holley commander 950.

So as you can see if I was charging for my labor even at a measly 10 per hour, I'd have a good chunk of change.

BTW document all your stages with pictures, and rough time estimates and keep your receipts, add them to a binder with the original build sheet and it will increase/make your truck sell easier should you ever do it. I plan to run my truck in shows once I am done with it. Maybe even win some prize money and reduce the money I've got in the truck already.
 
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Old Feb 28, 2011 | 08:18 PM
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Well said

Originally Posted by glovemeister
Personally I would take it slow man. Since you are 14 (I'm 19 btw) I do remember what it was like to be able to drive. You are fortunate (really you are) in that you can take your sweet time and make your truck perfect. I would get hooked up with some people who know stuff about motors, and get some books. Read everything you can.
I don't hangout with too many guys in my age group, I usually hangout with guys 30+ years of age. Why? Largely because they have done interesting things in life, they know all kinds of stuff I want to learn and get better at, mechanics, welding, cnc, home building, truck driving, etc etc. Guys my age group care about drinking and getting chicks sure thats nice and I've done my share of it but I'd rather do something productive with my life that is tangible and I can see and appreciate. When I started me restore/build of my 1984 Ford F250HD, I had a decent idea about engines lifts, paint, electrical etc. However, since I joined this site I am getting better at performance parts, rebuilding motors, painting, lifting etc. It just takes time. I suspect I've spent tens, maybe even hundreds of hours looking over builds, comparing them to my needs, asking questions and making a realistic plan and budget for what I want and need. Do that and you will have a sweet truck. Trust me the time and hours I've spent on my truck and everything I've learned about it have been many times funner than all my "activities" in high school. Doing a restoration on a truck is something that can be appreciated and especially so a custom truck is something that can never be matched.

When I was younger I was prepared to break the bank for a nice custom restored daily driver that someone did in some flavor, dodge, chevy ford etc. I then realized that I could not only get the same truck cheaper, I would gain knowledge and appreciate the fact that I did it all.

If it tells you how much work I've done, its been atleast 20-30 hours on removing me interior/fenders, hood, windows, doors etc. Another 20 hours-30 hours on interior prep/paint (seats etc), another 20 hours or so of sanding on my truck, roughly 10-20 hours in engine work. I still have about 20 hours to go in putting everything back together, 20 hours for my lift, 10-15 hours for my stereo system, and then pry 5 hours for my kc lights/alternator upgrades. I will also have 10-20 hours in my overdrive unit, and pry 20-50 hours in installing and tuning my holley commander 950.

So as you can see if I was charging for my labor even at a measly 10 per hour, I'd have a good chunk of change.

BTW document all your stages with pictures, and rough time estimates and keep your receipts, add them to a binder with the original build sheet and it will increase/make your truck sell easier should you ever do it. I plan to run my truck in shows once I am done with it. Maybe even win some prize money and reduce the money I've got in the truck already.
I agree completely. Take your time. Read, ask questions, be realistic.

There is a TON of stuff you can do to your ride while you learn. Don't worry so much about making it run fast, instead worry about making it run GOOD.

(sorry about my previous post. 14 scares me. My daughter is 14. She scares me...)
 
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Old Feb 28, 2011 | 08:20 PM
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yeeah i knw im 14 but ive been driving for while now, right now i drive my dads 09 dodge 4x4 thts very big. I knw more bout engines than axels and all that.
 
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Old Feb 28, 2011 | 08:26 PM
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Yeah thanks all positive ones. Im not into driving fast, i just dont want to get on a highway and for the inline 6 to pick up slow you knw? I really wont need the engine cause im not really gonna use torqe
 
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Old Feb 28, 2011 | 08:27 PM
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God help you Kevin! I can tell you with utmost certainty if I have a girl in her teenage years I am sending her to live with her grandparents lol and I'm 19.

81_F1,

Cautionary note unless you are on private ground, and or your state has different rules regarding the age to obtain an instruction permit (15) in my state and your parents are with you, I would caution you to not be driving on public roads. I know a girl who did that she was 16 and had her moms car out joyriding with a boy she wanted to impress. She was 15 IIRC and he was like 15 or so. She was a couple grades below me. Anyway, she and him were driving, can't recall drunk or not, but regardless they crashed, she broke her arm and almost went to jail. Her moms rig was totaled and the insurance company didn't want to pay out. However, I believe they finally did because she had her license privileges revoked until she was 18 or 19. So its not worth it.

Now having said that. I learned to drive everything when I was little, tractors combines, 13spd trucks, manual pickups, automatics etc. all on my families private farm ground because I needed to learn 1, and to be successful on the farm I needed to know how to drive it all.
 
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Old Feb 28, 2011 | 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by 1981 F_100
Yeah thanks all positive ones. Im not into driving fast, i just dont want to get on a highway and for the inline 6 to pick up slow you knw? I really wont need the engine cause im not really gonna use torqe
Then the inline six isn't for you. That is a bulletproof motor designed for pulling and it will get you there slow. However, I would also caution you against having anything "fast". I had an 86 Iroc camaro with an ls1 motor swapped into it it was doing about 350+hp. I won't lie and say it wasn't fast sure I had it above the speed limit, but I also did it in placed where if I crashed I wouldn't kill a mom and her kids. Thats reckless and ignorant. I've also exceeded the speed limit in my 95 Dodge pickup, however I was never reckless, it was rural county roads and it was to get on scene to a wreck. This was an a firefighter/first responder...We have like 2 people per square mile population density. It takes on average 6 minutes for our fire department to get in route, where as the national standard is like 1 minute or less for paid fire departments. as most people live a few miles a way as I did then. I also have taken EVOC courses which isn't a license to get wreckless, but in 100 degree temps no rain and an open road its good to go faster than the speed limit, certainly not felony/reckless driving status ie 90-100+. Those extra minutes spent putting around could have been life and death for someone.
 

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