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Old Feb 28, 2011 | 09:31 AM
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The problem is he won't get 400 hp out of 160cc stix, which is what he wants.....
Right, but with PMR's, I'd be scared to put 400HP on them anyways.

I talked to John Wood when I was having tranny problems and then we got to talking about my plans for the truck and that's where I originally got the notion of using AC's. Without nozzles, he said close to 400HP can be had... I think he said he actually got 410HP with a set of AC's once. It's all in the tuning... but both John, Clay, and Joey are all in agreement with me on an AC 100% combo so I'm pretty sure that's what I'd go with. I really don't think that 25-50HP would be that noticeable of a difference... that's just me, though. If I really wanted more HP, I'd build a motor and put some BD's in it... with my Dad's '08 at 350HP, it's and awesome truck to tow with so I know that stage-2's would get the job done.
 
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Old Feb 28, 2011 | 10:18 AM
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Rule of thumb is injector cc x 2.3 to get approximate rwhp. 160 x 2.3 is 368 hp. 200 x 2.3 is 460 hp, 238 x 2.3 is 547. For reference, stock AD 145cc injectors x 2.3 is 333 hp (with enough HP oil). Formula is about right, and from what I've seen, the dyno tends to confirm this. I don't see how you could get 400+ on 160cc of fuel....

Nothing to be scared of either. Stock trucks blow engines too....
 
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Old Feb 28, 2011 | 02:25 PM
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238/100s and tune accordingly
 
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Old Feb 28, 2011 | 02:29 PM
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Ten you'll be like me when you drive your truck:
Now that's hilarious!
 
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Old Feb 28, 2011 | 02:34 PM
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David, here's that vid I was telling you about when I ran the dyno...

Dyno_031310 :: Alvarado Dyno 031310 video by Izzy351 - Photobucket
 
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Old Feb 28, 2011 | 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Izzy351
Then you'll be like me when you drive your truck:
Originally Posted by Kwikkordead
Now that's hilarious!
I couldn't agree more Dan. That sequence of smileys had me laughing out loud.

Thanks for the laughs Joe.
 
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Old Feb 28, 2011 | 02:52 PM
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LOL... I didn't think about it at the time, but I guess it is pretty funny. I was just speaking the truth -- some because I never know if I'm about to blow something up when I hammer it or because of the cost of the fuel.....
 
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Old Feb 28, 2011 | 03:04 PM
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I started with stage I's and with a modded stock turbo it was a good combo but with the 38r i wanted more fuel so i went with Stage II's and like the difference so far but havent drove it much.
 
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Old Feb 28, 2011 | 03:07 PM
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I am not saying you should, but you could talk to cass and ask him to make larger stage 2s. With that you could keep the7:1 ratio and have enough cc to break 400. Just a thought!!
 
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Old Feb 28, 2011 | 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Izzy351
LOL... I didn't think about it at the time, but I guess it is pretty funny. I was just speaking the truth -- some because I never know if I'm about to blow something up when I hammer it or because of the cost of the fuel.....
You underestimated the funny value of that. It made me derp!
 
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Old Feb 28, 2011 | 06:21 PM
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I am not saying you should, but you could talk to cass and ask him to make larger stage 2s. With that you could keep the7:1 ratio and have enough cc to break 400. Just a thought!!
Any good tuner should be able to do that with the 238/100
 
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Old Feb 28, 2011 | 06:48 PM
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Any good tuner should be able to do that with the 238/100
Very true! This was in regards to making over 400 and keeping the 7:1 that a stage 2 offers.
 
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Old Feb 28, 2011 | 07:45 PM
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Hybrids have a 5:1 right? So if u have a weak hpop pump I don't think you can get good atomization. To me a good hpop with hybrids can make good power and mileage.
 
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Old Mar 1, 2011 | 12:37 PM
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What about the life expectancy of rebuilt injectors. Will stage 2's hold up better in the longrun compared to hybrids or vice versus?
 
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Old Mar 1, 2011 | 12:39 PM
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I'm also having a harder time finding a van turbo than what I thought so would a 1.0 exaust housing on a stock turbo support stage 2's?
 
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