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Old Feb 20, 2011 | 04:59 PM
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Where is my low side service port at? I bought the retrofit valves to go to R-134a and I need to make sure I know where to put them. Thanks guys. I have a 1977 Ford F150 with a 400
 
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Old Feb 20, 2011 | 05:03 PM
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With the York compressor the charge valves are at the compressor
 
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Old Feb 20, 2011 | 05:05 PM
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Old Feb 20, 2011 | 05:32 PM
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You aren't charging with R134 are you? You'll need vintage R12 or Freeze-12 to charge your system.

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Old Feb 20, 2011 | 06:05 PM
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No i bought the valves to retrofit the r-12 and bought some r-134 but for some reason i can't get the frion to go in. It's like the pressure won't hold. The compressor works fine and i bought the gauge and the can with the oil in it as well but I can't get it. It's reallly frustrating lol. It hooks up to the valve fine but it will not take the can, it's like something is blocking it.
 
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Old Feb 20, 2011 | 06:26 PM
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You HAVE flushed the system and had the remaining R-12 removed, right?
On Yorks there is a small valve stem that you have to open, just like a faucet to get the system to charge.
In the attatched picture, where the hoses hook to the compressor, the little acorn nut looking covers are where you'll attach the retrofit valves. Remove the acorn nut cover and attach. Then on the fitting, on the opposite side of where the hose attathes, there is a little cover. Unscrew the cover, that will expose the valve stem. You need to open this to get the compressor to take the refrigerant.
 
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Old Feb 20, 2011 | 06:49 PM
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Thank you so much for the info. I will get that R-12 removed tomorrow. The guy i bought the truck from said there wasn't any left but I will go have it checked just in case.
 
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You have to evac the R12 and ALL of the R12 oil, it isn't compatible with R134 PAG oil.

You must replace the receiver/drier as it is full of R12 crud and oil. You could skimp and not replace it, but it's just buying time.

Also keep in mind the R134 isn't going to cool anywhere near as well as R12 in an R12 system.

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Old Feb 20, 2011 | 07:54 PM
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You must replace the receiver/drier as it is full of R12 crud and oil. You could skimp and not replace it, but it's just buying time.
Also keep in mind the R134 isn't going to cool anywhere near as well as R12 in an R12 system.
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Good points, forgot about replacing the receiver-drier and yeah, R134 doesn't cool as well in a system designed for R12.
The oil in the system needs to be flushed but the York compressors have a sump (like a gas engine) that needs to be drained also.
 
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Just a mini hijack to thank Mike and Bullitt for knowing so much and helping spread the word.

I am still a learning fool on here, thanks all!

Now back to the a/c lesson.
 
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Just a mini hijack to thank Mike and Bullitt for knowing so much and helping spread the word.

I am still a learning fool on here, thanks all!

Now back to the a/c lesson.
Thanks for the compliment, glad to help if I can.
 
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Old Feb 22, 2011 | 09:27 AM
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Like the others have said, R-12 and 134 don't play well together. Keep the same system and use R-12 for best results or install new system for 134. After you evacuate the system, when you get to that point, don't forget to make sure it holds a vacuum or all your money in R-12 will dissipate into the atmosphere. Worth doing is worth doing right. A complete 134 aftermarket system will cool very well in our small cabs. I'm keeping mine original R-12 because I can. Good luck!
 
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Old Feb 22, 2011 | 09:37 AM
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When I replaced my system with a new York compressor and receiver-drier, I had it charged with R-134 and it cools very well. I'm sure not as good a R-12, but I cant keep mine on high cool for very long or I get too cold. I also have cleaned the cooling coil and all my ducting so my factory system is like new. I'm sure that makes a difference. I wanted a newer Sandon compressor, but for some reason the adapter bracket, compressor, and pulley would not line up with my other pulley's, so I just went with a rebuilt York. I'd still rather have the Sandon compressor though.
 
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