CT Chapter February B/S thread
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yesterday felt like spring! I went by a bank sign and it said 50 degrees! holy crap a heat wave haha!
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well, the only place to practice for motocross in the winter just collapsed 45 min ago.
It was Mototown USA in windsor Ct...it was the worlds largest indoor motocross track and now its just a pile of rubble. They were in the process of shoveling it off and they heard creaking and quickly got off the roof just as it fell. The only part of the building that is still standing is the Blimpie and dunkin donuts (but thats because they werent free span). Whats even worse is they hadnt even started to put a dent in the multi million dollar building cost.
Really stinks because i was planning on starting to practice there every thursday from this week till the first race in may.
It was Mototown USA in windsor Ct...it was the worlds largest indoor motocross track and now its just a pile of rubble. They were in the process of shoveling it off and they heard creaking and quickly got off the roof just as it fell. The only part of the building that is still standing is the Blimpie and dunkin donuts (but thats because they werent free span). Whats even worse is they hadnt even started to put a dent in the multi million dollar building cost.
Really stinks because i was planning on starting to practice there every thursday from this week till the first race in may.
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What I don't understand is, why is melting making them cave? Its been two days since it precipitated. Why didn't it cave then? It didn't get any heavier since then, unless you account for the weight of the snow shovelers and their weapons of choice. Do you think them shoveling them is making them cave, by making the roof load uneven? Discuss.
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What I don't understand is, why is melting making them cave? Its been two days since it precipitated. Why didn't it cave then? It didn't get any heavier since then, unless you account for the weight of the snow shovelers and their weapons of choice. Do you think them shoveling them is making them cave, by making the roof load uneven? Discuss.
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Yes, if the drains are frozen up the load still follows the pitch toward the drain(s)
The localized weight causes deflection and the weight of the liquid becomes more and more concentrated in one spot.
The roof wasn't engineered for that type of load. (snow load is always factored as evenly distributed)
The localized weight causes deflection and the weight of the liquid becomes more and more concentrated in one spot.
The roof wasn't engineered for that type of load. (snow load is always factored as evenly distributed)
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hello guys, My understanding is they were done entirely with the roof and if I had to guess as the the reason i'd say it was the weight of the removed snow pushing against the sides of the building. Could be they were not anchored adequately and pushed off whatever sill or foundation mount was there. Thats a guess from both a builders perspective as well as someone who has cleared 7 roofs in the last few days.
the big problem with these buildings coming down is the late response to getting the weight off the roof. how many storms did we have this year with no high melting temps to knock back the accumulation, and all these large buildings sat untouched. now they are dropping like flies and everybody is scrambling to remove the snow that has been rained on and frozen to concrete like consistency. 2 weeks ago after the large accumulation we had, the snow was easy to handle and could have been removed from the rooftops safely. a lot of people missed that golden opportunity only to see their house, shed, or business crushed.