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Old Dec 9, 2010 | 09:34 AM
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FE turbo'd ?

I just had a thought for my next slick project. The only thing I havent done yet is fool with the motor.I was thinking about doing a turbo. Did a search for turbo on here and it came up with anything but turbos.Anyone done this or have any links?
 
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Old Dec 9, 2010 | 10:33 AM
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I am pretty sure I recall seeing something on here about doing one. Search the FE forum a little further down the list, those guys are nuts... Should be pretty simple, the exhaust manifolds are of course the tricky part. I (and my son) have gone through three turbo Eclipses, a Subaru STi and a supercharged Bonneville, the forced induction is a quite a rush.
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Old Dec 9, 2010 | 10:44 AM
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I thought I had seen something on here also. Did an internet search and whadda ya know. Brought me back to FTE !
 
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Old Dec 9, 2010 | 02:36 PM
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You could turbo a lawnmower if you wanted too.... FE's are really no different then any other gas engine.... what are your plans (daily driver or weekend trailer queen), power goals, EFI or blow thru carb etc. ????
 
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Old Dec 9, 2010 | 03:07 PM
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Hell, I've already done my 22hp rider,5hp push mower,and tiller.LOL! They are cheaper and easier to work on!
My 65 is ust a weekend driver. I think if I was gonna do efi that would be a big enuf expense and wouldnt do a turbo.EFI is on the list for possibles. I am just looking for the WOW or COOL from a turbo and the performance benefits.A man told me I should look into a turbo when I was building my first car in HS. Just thinking out load right now
 
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Old Dec 9, 2010 | 03:29 PM
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Hell, I've already done my 22hp rider,5hp push mower,and tiller.LOL! They are cheaper and easier to work on!
My 65 is ust a weekend driver. I think if I was gonna do efi that would be a big enuf expense and wouldnt do a turbo.EFI is on the list for possibles. I am just looking for the WOW or COOL from a turbo and the performance benefits.A man told me I should look into a turbo when I was building my first car in HS. Just thinking out load right now

Well the easiest way to reply to your post is....your only real limit is your check book. As its really easy to make big HP with turbo(s). You should realize though that a OEM 352 block is really only good to about 650 horse tho. So you should come up with a game plan of what your ultimate goal is and how much money you want to spend.
 
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Old Dec 9, 2010 | 05:02 PM
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Hell, I've already done my 22hp rider,5hp push mower,and tiller.LOL! They are cheaper and easier to work on!
My 65 is ust a weekend driver. I think if I was gonna do efi that would be a big enuf expense and wouldnt do a turbo.EFI is on the list for possibles. I am just looking for the WOW or COOL from a turbo and the performance benefits.A man told me I should look into a turbo when I was building my first car in HS. Just thinking out load right now
what kind of turbo on the mower?

I would be interested in doing that
 
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Old Dec 9, 2010 | 05:21 PM
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Well the easiest way to reply to your post is....your only real limit is your check book. As its really easy to make big HP with turbo(s). You should realize though that a OEM 352 block is really only good to about 650 horse tho. So you should come up with a game plan of what your ultimate goal is and how much money you want to spend.
Think low buck basic. Like I said earlier,Just looking for the cool and wow and performance up grade.Streetable with low to no maintenance. Show off. I dont know how I would act with anything that put out real HP.The fastest car I have ever owned was an 01 Z28.
 
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Old Dec 9, 2010 | 05:25 PM
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what kind of turbo on the mower?

I would be interested in doing that
Banks Power Gale Banks Engineering 24052 - Banks Quick-Turbo Assemblies - Overview - SummitRacing.com
 
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Old Dec 9, 2010 | 08:17 PM
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I would definitely think EFI. It will be much easier in the long run. There are some EFI units that are blow through and bolt on to square bore manifolds. It is not ideal, but probably easier and a more accurate way to get correct fueling than fiddling with a blow through carb. I have given this some thought. Single or twin is the only real question
 
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Old Dec 10, 2010 | 06:07 AM
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Turbo-ing a carb'd engine is an excercise in futility, IMO. You really need fuel injection to make gains and control your fuel. If you're simply going to strap a turbo onto a stock FE you'd best stick to single digit boost levels, which is kind of a waste of all the engineering it will take. I'd suggest you also consider a supercharger, provided you can find one that fits the engine size and needs. Better low end torque, no real heat issues and far less plumbing. Look for a book "Maximum Boost" by Corky Bell, it's probably one of the best ones on the subject I've come across.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2010 | 06:20 AM
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Excellent book! I have another but I will have to find it as I can't remember the name off the top of my head. Look into the Professional products fuel injection system. If I remember correctly it is compatible with blow through applications and is a speed density tuning system.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2010 | 07:09 AM
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Excellent book! I have another but I will have to find it as I can't remember the name off the top of my head. Look into the Professional products fuel injection system. If I remember correctly it is compatible with blow through applications and is a speed density tuning system.
You mean DFI?


This EFI vs blow thru carb talk is like death and taxes! The only way real way the OP is going to get a good EFI is by going with a DFI system! And DFI's aren't cheap! He would also have to run a FE victor jr style intake so he can get the injector bosses right.

As for carb he run most any FE intake he wants. And while I can understand EFI is better for fuel mileage and tuning......carbs are more simple and cheaper! Blow thru carbs with turbos and superchargers have set many world records in drag racing! While I know the OP doesnt want to drag race his truck he should know all the facts before pulling the trigger! I can get him a nice CSU blow thru carb for under a grand! or he can mod his own holley carb with the right tools, for even less! EFI/DFI systems start at 1500 and go up from there!

As for superchargers I wouldnt waste my money! Superchargers are yesterdays news!

Turbos aren't rocket science! They will make power no matter what you do! Food for thought....I gotta bubby that has a 347 with TTs and a BONE STOCK 5.0 HO cam and his car makes just over 650 horse on 9lbs of boost. Hell we made 600 horse once with a BONE STOCK 5.0 out of a 86 mustang from the junk yard. And that wasn't even trying!
 
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Old Dec 10, 2010 | 07:21 AM
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Nope, I mean Professional Products Powerjection EFI system. If he wants to get serious there is also FAST EFI systems. I would say the extra 500 dollars is worth better drivability and more precise fueling. As was said earlier, it is all about how much you want to spend. But for a STREET set up fuel injection will be more efficient with better drivability.

No one is doubting that it can be done with a blow through, but is it better for the street? I would say no.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2010 | 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by crashtke
Nope, I mean Professional Products Powerjection EFI system. If he wants to get serious there is also FAST EFI systems. I would say the extra 500 dollars is worth better drivability and more precise fueling. As was said earlier, it is all about how much you want to spend. But for a STREET set up fuel injection will be more efficient with better drivability.

No one is doubting that it can be done with a blow through, but is it better for the street? I would say no.

FAST is DFI, just a FYI....same with the ACCEL DFI

and Im sorry but Professional Products EFI is just a throttle body system and not a true EFI system. GM tried that crap and it was a waste in my opinion! And yes I have installed their 'Powerjection' before on a customers car and was not happy with it at all. and for the 1700 he spent on it, it wasn't worth it.

Does 22 miles the gallon count? on 6lbs of boost and 550 rwhp ?
 
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