Notices
6.7L Power Stroke Diesel 2011-current Ford Powerstroke 6.7 L turbo diesel engine

Shutter starting heavy load.

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Nov 16, 2010 | 03:59 PM
  #1  
don.joyce59's Avatar
don.joyce59
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 161
Likes: 0
Shutter starting heavy load.

I have a 2011 F350 dually and tow a 5th wheel camping trailer. If I get heavy in the foot when starting from a dead stop the truck shutters. Does anyone else have this problem? Does anyone know of a fix?
 
Reply
Old Nov 16, 2010 | 04:24 PM
  #2  
ktp1942's Avatar
ktp1942
New User
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 4
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by don.joyce59
I have a 2011 F350 dually and tow a 5th wheel camping trailer. If I get heavy in the foot when starting from a dead stop the truck shutters. Does anyone else have this problem? Does anyone know of a fix?
I had the same problem and the dealer changed the spacer block angle on the rear axle to change driveshaft angle . It was only one degree but it worked for me


Jim
 
Reply
Old Nov 25, 2010 | 06:09 PM
  #3  
marchare011's Avatar
marchare011
Posting Guru
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 1,783
Likes: 1
From: WY
I too have an '11 F-350 DRW CC. I love that truck!!! But, the shaking or chattering in the rear dif when I take off with my 18K toy hauler has me a little bit concerned. When I took it to the selling dealer with the fiver in tow, their first response was "it's the driveline angle." Well, after checking the latest and greatest TSP, it said I needed a new third member. So we ordered such a beast and when they installed it, nothing had changed, back to the dealer for plan B.

While they had my baby in the shop they performed the "upgrade", more on that later. We're still waiting to see what Ford's next idea is on the rear dif.
 
Reply
Old Nov 25, 2010 | 06:15 PM
  #4  
720Deere's Avatar
720Deere
Postmaster
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 2,598
Likes: 5
From: Maryland
What exactly did they replace as the "third member"? The 10.5 Sterling isn't a 3rd member style differential like a Ford 9" is. Also, do you have the ELD option?
 
Reply
Old Nov 25, 2010 | 06:27 PM
  #5  
marchare011's Avatar
marchare011
Posting Guru
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 1,783
Likes: 1
From: WY
They swapped the rear dif pumpkin. Couldn't tell ya the specifics. Ford said the clutches in the limited slip in the Dana rear-end would have to be replaced. Supposedly, they put a Ford rear-end under it. End result was the problem is still there.
 
Reply
Old Nov 26, 2010 | 07:05 AM
  #6  
ruschejj's Avatar
ruschejj
Post Fiend
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 6,521
Likes: 11
From: Greenwood, SC
Club FTE Gold Member
I had the same issue on my '08 I had. I always thought it was a reasonable condition considering how much power was being placed on the drive line vs. what I was trying to move. These engines bring on a LOT of torque very quickly and the energy of the torque has nowhere to go for a second or two, seems logical to have the torque converter/driveshaft/rear diff/axle complain a bit about the strain.
 
Reply
Old Nov 26, 2010 | 07:16 AM
  #7  
720Deere's Avatar
720Deere
Postmaster
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 2,598
Likes: 5
From: Maryland
Originally Posted by 720Deere
What exactly did they replace as the "third member"? The 10.5 Sterling isn't a 3rd member style differential like a Ford 9" is. Also, do you have the ELD option?
Boy the turkey must have had it's way with me last night! I just noticed that this is a dually not a SRW. It's a Dana 80 and not a 10.5, so no ELD but still no 3rd member.

Typically on a SRW truck the shutter on takeoff is caused by axle wrap, but that's not usually a factor with the heavier spring pack/ shorter spacer block on a DRW. If indeed this issue is a result of axle wrap, nothing short of a set of traction bars is going to make it fully go away. Hopefully your dealer figures it out and gets you straight. I know how annoying it can be.
 
Reply
Old Nov 26, 2010 | 08:50 AM
  #8  
marchare011's Avatar
marchare011
Posting Guru
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 1,783
Likes: 1
From: WY
all shook up

I appreciate your analysis of the problem. It's great being able to visit with people other than the techs at the dealership. Not saying they don't know what they're talking about, but, you know they are not telling you everything up front.

When I got my baby home from the evil dealership, I looked er over pretty good. It appeared to me there was a new third member under there. I also examined the spring mounts and u-bolts, as I hooking up the toy-hauler and didn't want any whoops-a-daisies. I noticed when they pulled the wheels off the right side, they didn't get my valve stems lined up with each other. So, back to shop. Yea, I could have fixed it but, shouldn't have to, right?

Anyway, maybe when I get home from Minn. we can get togeher and figure out plan B.
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

 Brett Foote
story-2

Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-3

Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

 Brett Foote
story-6

2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-7

10 Most Surprising 2026 Ford Truck Features!

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

Top 10 Ford Trucks Coming to Mecum Indy 2026

 Brett Foote
story-9

5 Best / 5 Worst Ford Truck Wheels of All Time

 Joe Kucinski
Old Nov 26, 2010 | 09:05 AM
  #9  
ltatkinson's Avatar
ltatkinson
Senior User
15 Year Member
Liked
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 185
Likes: 0
I dont believe you can get the ELD on a DRW. But I could be mistaken.

Tim
 
Reply
Old Nov 26, 2010 | 12:06 PM
  #10  
kper05's Avatar
kper05
Lead Driver
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Liked
Loved
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 6,600
Likes: 83
Club FTE Silver Member

Originally Posted by ltatkinson
I dont believe you can get the ELD on a DRW. But I could be mistaken.

Tim
Correct, ELD on SRW vehicles only.
 
Reply
Old Nov 26, 2010 | 12:12 PM
  #11  
sncbluegt's Avatar
sncbluegt
Senior User
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 292
Likes: 0
I had the same problem in my 06....I never did fix it for some reason..I just didn't accelerate fast. But as ktp said..I believe it to be the pinion angle or the driveline is not straight..either way it sounds like something is causing the u joints to be in a bind.
 
Reply
Old Nov 26, 2010 | 12:25 PM
  #12  
porthole's Avatar
porthole
Cargo Master
15 Year Member
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 3,220
Likes: 62
Club FTE Silver Member

Can the techs look at the computer to see if it was trans slip?

This has my curiosity, especially since I have a CC DRW coming and my toy hauler is about 18K
 
Reply
Old Nov 26, 2010 | 12:42 PM
  #13  
sncbluegt's Avatar
sncbluegt
Senior User
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 292
Likes: 0
They can but unless its significant enough the pcm wont log it. The term the computer logs it into is "freeze frame data" but usually for it to get into freeze frame it will end up setting a SES light.
 
Reply
Old Nov 26, 2010 | 03:34 PM
  #14  
marchare011's Avatar
marchare011
Posting Guru
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 1,783
Likes: 1
From: WY
all shook up

Originally Posted by porthole
Can the techs look at the computer to see if it was trans slip?

This has my curiosity, especially since I have a CC DRW coming and my toy hauler is about 18K

Im of the opinion it's in the driveline angle. Jake, my service mgr., suggested this was the culprit from day one, but he had to go with Ford's recommendation to swap the pumpkin. I'm sure they'll figure it out.

I wouldn't worry about your upcoming arrival, unless it's UPS brown. LOL.
 
Reply
Old Nov 26, 2010 | 06:24 PM
  #15  
Sportscraft's Avatar
Sportscraft
More Turbo
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 610
Likes: 3
I wonder if a set of airbags or overload spring packs would help if its a driveline angle problem? I had a truck with 2" lift blocks in the rear and I had a shudder problem so I had to put in a driveline bearing spacer to fix the angle. To me it would make sense if you have problems lifting it 2" then you would have problems lowering 2" or more inches (lowering ofcourse being from the the pin weight).

Also, do people with the 450s and 4.30 gears have the same problem?
 
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:37 AM.

story-0
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE
story-1
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

And it might be even better than that.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-18 19:26:42


VIEW MORE
story-2
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

Slideshow: Does lowering an F-150 Lobo RUIN the ride quality?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-18 19:20:37


VIEW MORE
story-3
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-4
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE
story-5
2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

Slideshow: first look at the 810 hp 2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road!

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-12 12:50:07


VIEW MORE
story-6
2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

Slideshow: Everything You Need to Know about the 2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-07 17:51:06


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 Most Surprising 2026 Ford Truck Features!

Slideshow: 10 most surprising Ford truck options/features in 2026.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 11:17:22


VIEW MORE
story-8
Top 10 Ford Trucks Coming to Mecum Indy 2026

Slideshow: Here are the top 10 Fords coming to Mecum Indy 2026.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-04 13:49:49


VIEW MORE
story-9
5 Best / 5 Worst Ford Truck Wheels of All Time

Slideshow: The 5 best and 5 worst Ford truck wheels of all time

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-29 16:49:01


VIEW MORE