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Old 01-08-2010, 10:03 PM
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48-52 brake question

Do the 48-52 F2's have 12' brakes.
 
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Yes, F-3's have larger rear brakes until, I think '52. I keep forgetting exactly what year. Do a search for "F-3" "brakes", you should turn up quite a few posts.
 
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The Ford parts catalog lists 48-51 front brake drums as being 11 13/16" ID, and 51-52 as 12" ID.
Rear drums 48-51 are 12" ID, and 51-55 are also 12" ID, but listed under a different part number.
 
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Interesting, my parts CD shows all are 12.00" but shows two different widths, 2" and 2.40" for 51/52 (only). Is yours a paper catalog, Wayne?
 
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I just sold a set of four drums for a late '51-52 F-2. They are different than the earlier trucks. I bought the set to use on my '49 but found they were different. As far as I could tell the only difference was the depth of the drum, not the width of the braking surface or the inside diameter. I didn't measure my '49 drums though so there could be a slight difference. The shoes were the same, front and back, on my '49.
 
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Here are the 51 Brake Specifications. I would expect 52 to be the same. And while 48-50 should be very similar, Bob and Ross have a much better idea on that.

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Thanks for the info.
My 52 F3 has 12" brakes but I was not sure about the earlier 48-51's or if the F-2's & F-3's were the same.
From this I think the F-2's had 12" but the 48-50 F-3's had larger.

What I am really looking at is the backing plates for a project. I am told that '53-'56 F-2 backing plates will work for what I want but was wondering about the earlier ones.

In the parts book what different front backing plates are listed for F-2's for 48-56 and in what years are the F-3's different.

Thanks again for the info.
I will go back through it again and sort it all out.
 
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Here are the listings for front brakes from the CD:

C = F-1
D = F-2
Y = F-3

The column to the right of the diameter is shoe width

Below are the listing for the backing plates
 
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Originally Posted by ALBUQ F-1
Interesting, my parts CD shows all are 12.00" but shows two different widths, 2" and 2.40" for 51/52 (only). Is yours a paper catalog, Wayne?

Yes, I have an original (not reprint) 48-55 Ford Chassis Parts paper catalog. It shows 48-51 D,Y front brake drum as 11 13/16 ID p/n 8 D-1125-A, and 51-52 D,Y 12" ID p/n 1D-1125-B. Neither mentions anything about width. I'm assuming there was some running change mid-year in 51 for front brakes.

For front brake backing plate, I list 51-55 D,Y, and 53-55 J (parcel delivery) as being the same. 1D-2012-B (RH) and 1D-2013-B (LH). But if you find 51's somewhere, be sure they aren't the early style that fit 48-51. They are not side specific (L and R use the same plate). It appears the 52-56 F-250/350 will work for your 52 F-3.
 
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I think the 12" is a nominal dimension, and includes probably 0.060" or more for turning over its life. I also think that F-250 backing plates past '56 are the same, '56 is just the limits of my CD. Very common Bendix pieces. (Number Dummy?)
 
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Ok
It looks like mid 51-56 f1 & f2 & f250 should be the same and work.

Now the search begins.
Any one have an extra set they aren't going to use.
The backing plates are the only part I need.

Thanks Richard
 
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Are you looking to replace because of grooves cut on the pads where the shoes slide? I had to weld up all 4 of mine there. The weld metal seems to hold up better than new.
 
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Ross

This is n O/T project.

I am working on a 1929 model A hot rod that has 49 F1 brakes on the front.
I want to put the aluminum finned Buick drums on it but they are 12".
I can do it on the rear because they are 12" 46 Ford car brakes.
With the 12" F2/3 backing plates I should be able to make the fronts work.

Thanks Richard
 
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Sounds like a fun project! As well as my F-1 brakes work on a F-1, I can't believe you need 12" for an A, but Buick drums are cool! You ought to check the HAMB, there are dozens of articles on what works with them.
 
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Originally Posted by 52 F3
Ok
It looks like mid 51-56 f1 & f2 & f250 should be the same and work.

Now the search begins.
Any one have an extra set they aren't going to use.
The backing plates are the only part I need.

Thanks Richard
No! You need F-2/250 and F-3/350. F-1/100 are different. And since we don't know when the change was in 51, it's better to say late 51 than mid 51.
 


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