Braking brake on a F 53 ford chassis
#1
Braking brake on a F 53 ford chassis
I mean parking brake
Please let me know if I am not in the right forum. I own a 1999 windsport motor home on a f53 ford chassis. Does anybody as any information on the parking brake. It's a drive line brake. I have to replace the brake shoe. I read somewhere that after unbolting the drive shaft that you can not removed the brake drum. There is a housing between the drum and the trany. I understood that you have to unbolt this ***'y from the transmision? There is oil in this housing with a level plug at about 10 O'clock. any help would be appreciated.
Norm
Please let me know if I am not in the right forum. I own a 1999 windsport motor home on a f53 ford chassis. Does anybody as any information on the parking brake. It's a drive line brake. I have to replace the brake shoe. I read somewhere that after unbolting the drive shaft that you can not removed the brake drum. There is a housing between the drum and the trany. I understood that you have to unbolt this ***'y from the transmision? There is oil in this housing with a level plug at about 10 O'clock. any help would be appreciated.
Norm
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#2
Howdy,
You have a parking brake like the one (below) I'm going to use on my 55 F-600.
I don't think you can easily remove the drum. I believe it's pressed on and most usually either exchange it for a rebuilt one or they send it to someone that rebuilds them...
I did find a rebuilt unit on ebay for $650...... and I also found shoes. I guess I'll be wanting to do the same thing when I wear mine out...
It does bolt on the back of the trans where the transfer case would go on a 4x4.
You have a parking brake like the one (below) I'm going to use on my 55 F-600.
I don't think you can easily remove the drum. I believe it's pressed on and most usually either exchange it for a rebuilt one or they send it to someone that rebuilds them...
I did find a rebuilt unit on ebay for $650...... and I also found shoes. I guess I'll be wanting to do the same thing when I wear mine out...
It does bolt on the back of the trans where the transfer case would go on a 4x4.
#3
Thank you for the info. Nice picture very helpfull .I will attempt to do this next spring. Once you have the ***'y on your bench there is probably a way to press the drum off. It would be nice to have a drawing or a procedure to do this. I read somewhere were guys did replace the shoe themselves.
#4
I think you're right. I needed to use a brake like this because my rear axle/brakes do not have a provision for a mechanically actuated parking brake.
I wanted to change from the old T98 4 speed box (which does have a lever operated ebrake) to the E4OD automatic (or 4R100), which you're probably using on your motor home.
I had a real problem finding one. Most of the wrecking yards want $500-600 for a used ebrake unit like this.
If you do pull yours, and it has a lot of miles on it you should probably carefully inspect the bearings. Ford doesn't seem to have a well known procedure to check the oil in the unit and when it leaks out the bearings fail......Fords procedure to fix it is to replace it (for about $1200!!!) there's always 3 or 4 rebuilt units on ebay for about $600 exchange.
When you get yours off, please post some pictures and a narrative.
Cheers,
Rick
EDIT:
I did a little searching around and found out that you may not be able to just press the drum off....evidently there's bolts that hold the drum on from the front..
I think you'll have to disassemble it to get it apart.... POST PICTURES!!
I wanted to change from the old T98 4 speed box (which does have a lever operated ebrake) to the E4OD automatic (or 4R100), which you're probably using on your motor home.
I had a real problem finding one. Most of the wrecking yards want $500-600 for a used ebrake unit like this.
If you do pull yours, and it has a lot of miles on it you should probably carefully inspect the bearings. Ford doesn't seem to have a well known procedure to check the oil in the unit and when it leaks out the bearings fail......Fords procedure to fix it is to replace it (for about $1200!!!) there's always 3 or 4 rebuilt units on ebay for about $600 exchange.
When you get yours off, please post some pictures and a narrative.
Cheers,
Rick
EDIT:
I did a little searching around and found out that you may not be able to just press the drum off....evidently there's bolts that hold the drum on from the front..
I think you'll have to disassemble it to get it apart.... POST PICTURES!!
#5
Another point to consider,
You can probably buy those "shoes" on ebay too....
I did a search on Rock Auto and found them a little cheaper than the ones I found on ebay.....ebay is not always the best deal! do your homework!!........AND I think Rock Auto is one of the sellers that advertises here!
//R
You can probably buy those "shoes" on ebay too....
I did a search on Rock Auto and found them a little cheaper than the ones I found on ebay.....ebay is not always the best deal! do your homework!!........AND I think Rock Auto is one of the sellers that advertises here!
//R
#6
I Rick
Thank you. I check Rock Auto and your right they have parking brake shoe. I couldn't find a listing for a motor home but I think they are the same as E450. I think the shoes are easy enough to come by. What I need now is some kind of a procedure to press the drum off. Ford keep saying that is't not a serviceable part.There is only 34000 KM (20,000 miles) on my MH. I check the oil in the brake ***'y this morning and it is full so I think I'am O.K. I will not go at it before the spring but when I do I will post pictures.
Thank you. I check Rock Auto and your right they have parking brake shoe. I couldn't find a listing for a motor home but I think they are the same as E450. I think the shoes are easy enough to come by. What I need now is some kind of a procedure to press the drum off. Ford keep saying that is't not a serviceable part.There is only 34000 KM (20,000 miles) on my MH. I check the oil in the brake ***'y this morning and it is full so I think I'am O.K. I will not go at it before the spring but when I do I will post pictures.
#7
I Rick
Thank you. I check Rock Auto and your right they have parking brake shoe. I couldn't find a listing for a motor home but I think they are the same as E450. I think the shoes are easy enough to come by. What I need now is some kind of a procedure to press the drum off. Ford keep saying that is't not a serviceable part.There is only 34000 KM (20,000 miles) on my MH. I check the oil in the brake ***'y this morning and it is full so I think I'am O.K. I will not go at it before the spring but when I do I will post pictures.
Thank you. I check Rock Auto and your right they have parking brake shoe. I couldn't find a listing for a motor home but I think they are the same as E450. I think the shoes are easy enough to come by. What I need now is some kind of a procedure to press the drum off. Ford keep saying that is't not a serviceable part.There is only 34000 KM (20,000 miles) on my MH. I check the oil in the brake ***'y this morning and it is full so I think I'am O.K. I will not go at it before the spring but when I do I will post pictures.
They probably don't indicate it's rebuildable because they want to sell you a new one (for nearly $2000 retail )
I did find 2 on ebay, 1 for about $650 USD(rebuilt) and a new one for $850 USD("buy it now"). I don't think the new one requires a "core"... In reality, that's a bargain!
Ford ZF Super Duty Parking Brake F350 F450 E350 E450 :eBay Motors (item 320435085857 end time Oct-19-09 09:31:50 PDT)
The core value is frequently around $500. If I was still looking for one I would probably buy that new one!
I think you'll have to completely disassemble yours to get to the shoes. If it's not just worn shoes, and yours did leak a little oil on them it'll at least need new seals along with the new shoes....... There's only 2 bearings in it so there's not much else to "rebuild".
I don't know how they come apart, so I look forward to your disassembly pictures!
Regards,
Rick
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#8
Thank you Rick
I just bought the MH from an old fellow and he toll me about the brake. I assmed he drove with it on. I don't think it got to hot there is lots of oil in it and no leaks. Can find no play in the bearings. I will look forward to get more info from you. I did some search on it but could not find much.
Norm
I just bought the MH from an old fellow and he toll me about the brake. I assmed he drove with it on. I don't think it got to hot there is lots of oil in it and no leaks. Can find no play in the bearings. I will look forward to get more info from you. I did some search on it but could not find much.
Norm
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