OBDII not seeing ECU/never mind
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OBDII not seeing ECU/never mind
I have a bluetooth dongle type OBDII sensor that connects to the Torque app. It connects under the dash without any issue and connects to the phone but the dongle doesn't find the sensor.
I have a 97 Triton V-10 85L Super Duty chassis. My suspicion is that the truck's electronics are too old for the dongle I'm using but thought I'd toss it out here to see if anyone had any ideas. I'll also post on the Torque site.
I want to be able to see and clear error codes and possibly display RPMs or maybe engine temps.
Thanks for any ideas you may have.
Doug
Edit
Never mind...The truck is ODB1 not ODB2 and my sensor and app are not compatible.
I have a 97 Triton V-10 85L Super Duty chassis. My suspicion is that the truck's electronics are too old for the dongle I'm using but thought I'd toss it out here to see if anyone had any ideas. I'll also post on the Torque site.
I want to be able to see and clear error codes and possibly display RPMs or maybe engine temps.
Thanks for any ideas you may have.
Doug
Edit
Never mind...The truck is ODB1 not ODB2 and my sensor and app are not compatible.
Last edited by dogugotw; 10-17-2015 at 01:48 PM. Reason: figured it out
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yep
Totally right, the dogleg doesn't work. Any suggestion for one that works with obd1?
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The Bluetooth dongle I have was given to me by a friend who bought it on ebay so I don't know what brand or seller.
It is black, about 3.5" long, and says ELM327 1.5. It has connected to every OBD2 vehicle I have tried.
It looks exactly like the one in this link except mine is black instead of blue:
Newest ELM327 V1 5 Bluetooth EOBD OBD2 Interface Auto Diagnostic Scanner Adapter | eBay
It is black, about 3.5" long, and says ELM327 1.5. It has connected to every OBD2 vehicle I have tried.
It looks exactly like the one in this link except mine is black instead of blue:
Newest ELM327 V1 5 Bluetooth EOBD OBD2 Interface Auto Diagnostic Scanner Adapter | eBay
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97 Triton V-10 85L Super Duty chassis.
Just to confirm, the dongle you posted also talks to ODBI systems?
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That doesn't make any sense.
For a Ford, it has to be an EEC-V PCM which can (and does) run both OBDI and OBDII software). The specific PCM calibration has no bearing on whether or not the dongle can communicate with the PCM as the communications protocol is the same.
For a Ford, it has to be an EEC-V PCM which can (and does) run both OBDI and OBDII software). The specific PCM calibration has no bearing on whether or not the dongle can communicate with the PCM as the communications protocol is the same.
Also, not sure what doesn't make sense about the truck description. I didn't get the decimal point in the engine size so let me know what's out of whack. I bought this used and am not a gearhead so I am trying to piece the spec together from various stickers on or near the engine.
thanks for sticking with this, I appreciate the help.
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As I understand, my dongle is only able to read odb2 and the truck puts our odb1 so I would need a different dongle.
If you post the first 10 digits of your VIN, it's easier to determine what you have.
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OP is confusing OBD 1 compliance and OBD 1 equipment.
OBD2 became universally adopted for vehicles in USA for the 1996 model year but had been "phased in" on various models by different manufacturers over the prior couple of years due to variations in product design cycles.
OBD2 compliance requires broader and more comprehensive emissions controls than OBD1. Passenger cars and light duty trucks built for the 1996 model year and later are required to comply with OBD2 standards.
But since almost all the vehicles that the V10 is installed into are rated over 8500 pounds GVWR heavy duty trucks, these heavier vehicles were exempted from the tougher OBD2 standards and instead need only to comply with the less strict OBD1 standards.
The above mentioned heavy duty vehicles in the American (USA) market still have OBD2 hardware and are compatible with OBD2 "code readers". But they have some of the sensors "locked out" because they are not required for OBD1 compliance.
Regarding using the OBD2 dongle
Just to cover the most rudimentary basics, the key must be in the "On" position for the dongle to get any info from the vehicle computer.
First off, plug in the dongle to the OBD2 port and turn the ignition key to the "ON" position. Then make sure Bluetooth is enabled on your device and make sure the dongle is "paired" to the device.
Once the dongle is paired, open the Torque app and wait for the app to recognize the dongle and the vehicle's computer.
OBD2 became universally adopted for vehicles in USA for the 1996 model year but had been "phased in" on various models by different manufacturers over the prior couple of years due to variations in product design cycles.
OBD2 compliance requires broader and more comprehensive emissions controls than OBD1. Passenger cars and light duty trucks built for the 1996 model year and later are required to comply with OBD2 standards.
But since almost all the vehicles that the V10 is installed into are rated over 8500 pounds GVWR heavy duty trucks, these heavier vehicles were exempted from the tougher OBD2 standards and instead need only to comply with the less strict OBD1 standards.
The above mentioned heavy duty vehicles in the American (USA) market still have OBD2 hardware and are compatible with OBD2 "code readers". But they have some of the sensors "locked out" because they are not required for OBD1 compliance.
Regarding using the OBD2 dongle
Just to cover the most rudimentary basics, the key must be in the "On" position for the dongle to get any info from the vehicle computer.
First off, plug in the dongle to the OBD2 port and turn the ignition key to the "ON" position. Then make sure Bluetooth is enabled on your device and make sure the dongle is "paired" to the device.
Once the dongle is paired, open the Torque app and wait for the app to recognize the dongle and the vehicle's computer.
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