I finally was able to get an AutoEnginuity w/the Ford Bundle. I've been tring to solve my cold start issues for a while now, I took it to Ford (All they said was I needed all new injectors), I've change Glow Plugs, GPCM, ICP, IPR, done the blue spring update, checked FICM voltage, checked wiring, changed oil, filters, bubble test, and every other thing prior to getting the AE. While monitoring some parameters, I noticed some suspicious EGR numbers. Also, I pulled a code P0046. Can anyone tell me what I need to change to fix that code. Also take a look at the numbers and see if you can see anything out of the norm. Could my EGR cooler or EGR be causing this issue?


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This was after the engine warmed up. It runs perfect when when warm!

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If you haven't seen it, here's a copy of a parameter list of what the sensors should be reading. https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/a...1&d=1364848489 (Note IPR is incorrect on upper limit, it can go to 85%) I couldn't read the labels on the values in the video so the only ones I'm sure of are the ones you pointed out.

I think the EGR is ok, 0.02 is almost nothing ( in your cold start video). I have graphed my EGR with DashBoss and it's amazingly active. I didn't know it moved around that much.

The cold start sound a lot like my '06 which also starts clearing up around 110° ECT and is running nice by 150°. Maybe not quite as bad as it doesn't stall if I drop it into gear, but I recognize that loping sound (and bouncing seat). I think it's injector stiction. I had dramatic and quick improvement on this problem with RevX oil treatment but it's expensive and didn't last long after the next oil change. It did confirm Stiction though. There's a write-up in the Tech folder on how to clean the injector spool valves, more of a Long term fix. I plan to try that sometime or as the shop told you, replacing the injectors would fix it up (but costs a bundle).

 

What is IPR% in both scenarios? Could monitor EGR desired versus EGR Error if you're suspecting a stuck EGR valve.

And your clips show how worthless AE is for injector contribution.

Sounds like major stiction to me.

Josh

 

What would you recommend for testing the injector contribution?

 

Ford IDS

I'm curious why some have somewhat decent results with AE and injector contribution and others, like yourself, definately have combustion issues and AE shows even firing.

Got some Stiction going on there. What's the IPR%? What weight engine oil?

Josh

 

Is this the Ford IDS that is mentioned a lot, or are there other components that must be bought as well?

If I was to buy what is shown on this ebay page and download the discs on to my laptop, am I good to go?

2015 Newest Ford VCM II IDS V90 VCM 2 Diagnostic Tool Equipment VCM2 A | eBay

 

No combustion issues here and I do not have AE.

I agree Ford IDS is the king of the hill, but is out of my league.

 

Sorry, posting on the iPhone didn't catch you weren't the OP.

My bad.

IDS is fairly reasonable. The EBay link above is a steal at that price. Otherwise, contact Yahiko about getting set up with Ford IDS, he has his sources.

Josh

 

X3 on major stiction issues. What weight of oil are you running? If it is 15W-40 I would switch to a 5W-40 or a diesel rated 10W-30 for starters.

 

IPR% with the engine cold was between 31.64 and 34.77 at idle (cold). When I put in drive it went as high as 67.97 (Cold).

When warmed up IPR% stayed a constant 23.83. The IPR% is the bottom middle one.

 

I use Shell Rotella T Full synthetic. I've been using it since I've owned the truck (9 years).

 

Check out the Stiction Eliminator to clean your injectors, it will definitely help with the cold starts. The Original Stiction Eliminator - Hot Shot's Secret

 

I've tried that, actually its still in there and its been a little over 2,000 miles now. I've tried RevX as well. I'm just going to try to do the spool valves and while I'm in there do the injector seals, nipple cups, and stand pipes.

 

Is that the real deal? If so I am returning AE and getting IDS instead.

 

Sounds exactly as my excursion did. Really couldn't get it to run below 22F. Finally swapped to the to rotella T6 and what a difference. At least for a short period. I was gung ho on the OEM filters but unfortunately I didn't know about the tall aftermarket caps from Napa which I had. Figured that out and so far down to 5 degrees it will start with just a little bit of striction but almost none. It only takes about 5 secs for it to clear up now and I'm not smoking out my entire neighborhood