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Old 01-16-2014, 07:42 PM
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429 Swap-Oil pan

Im in the midst of a 429 swap and have the whole front clip of my truck tore apart installing dream beams. I know in 4x4's you need a rear sump pan. What about 2 wheel drives? I cannot find any info on this. Would a fromt sump work, one more desirable than the other? I could answer this question myself if my truck wasn't tore down, but that's not the case.

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Us 4x4 guys do NOT have to swap to a rear sump oil pan on a 460, when putting it a 4x4.

Its just the best call, other wise you can get the front pumpkin to hit the bottom of the pan, yes I know that for a fact.

As far as 460 in 2wd 79 isn't it a front sump? I have never really looked to be honest, but I think it is? So I am guessing a 429 front sump pan will work? Or one that straddles the crossmember?

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As far as I am aware, all V8's used in 2wd pickups from 65 thru 79 all had the normal Ford front sump pans. Doesn't make sense, as changing the oil almost always means the oil drains onto the crossmember, then off of it in several different places............
 
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I think you will need a rear sump pan and it will be easier to install while engine is on stand. The pick up tube installs on stud on crankshaft main bearing cap. You need to verify clearance of pick up to bottom of pan with clay or silly putty and seal up pan right with sealer and gaskets. The truck in photo is my 67 I swapped a 429 in place of a I6 20 years ago. I think a 79 crossmember will be similar.
 
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Originally Posted by 77&79F250
Us 4x4 guys do NOT have to swap to a rear sump oil pan on a 460, when putting it a 4x4.

Its just the best call, other wise you can get the front pumpkin to hit the bottom of the pan, yes I know that for a fact.
I know this for a fact also.
 
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Yea there is an obvious sign in the pan from it happening when the PO had it and the worn out highboy front springs gave out and his fix was FRONT blocks.....jeeshh.

Idiot move #2 along with the notched R/H top frame rail cause he used a car exhaust manifold instead of getting a truck one.
 
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You can use a front sump or a center sump like the vans have in them, but I believe a rear sump would have created problems with the steering on my 77. Wasn't a lot of room behind the center type sump and the drag link Couple inches at most.
 
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Yep 2wd steering parts are one the back side of the crossmember, so maybe a rear sump will not work?
 
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There is a difference between a front sump car and truck. A car drains on the side and a truck drains from the rear to avoid dumping all over the crossmember. I just modified one for a friends truck.
 
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Re tapped hole 5/8" and threaded in a stud, welded and buffed smooth. Then installed 1/2 20 nut for new plug
 
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