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Hello Everyone, new guy here! Been a Jeep guy my whole life, was raised around old fords - and have always done all of my own light fab. work & restoration work. I've been on the hunt for one of these for the past 2 years straight. Finally saved enough money for the late 60's early 70's style 4x4 i wanted and then i came across this truck...... I couldnt help myself.
Truck is currently still in Oregon. Working out some Title issues with the previous owner but its paid for and im working on getting it transported to NY presently. With all this said im having a hard time finding information.
I know it has a 352, and cab #'s match the frame. 4WD 4 speed. What differentials came in these trucks? Which T-Case? It currently has scrappy aftermarket tires and wheels that just dont look right. I'll be putting some tall skinny's on. I've been told it runs and drives well, so it will go on the road and be used daily ( I pray).
Any information on what i've got here would be of enormous help. What size tires and steel wheels would be ideal?
The first year for the 352 was '65. Post the VIN and data plate info and I'm sure others here can decipher what you have.
oh boy.....
the Vin is F26CR566933.
Can someone decipher it? What would a 64' F250 4x4 come with typically? The vin on the cab and frame match. EDIT. New issue. Owner just told me the door with the plate that has the warranty number which I believe is used to decipher, had been replaced. Original door and plate gone. Motor is a 352 though. Shucks.....
can I find anything about the truck out from the vin? Color, build plant, etc.
See attached. So im told the frame and cab are matching....atleast there is that!!! I found some decoder, it decoded the vin as the truck being factory 4wd. Thankfully its not a total frankenstein, despite the color! Lol.
Can someone decipher it? What would a 64' F250 4x4 come with typically? The VIN on the cab and frame match.
F26 = F250 4WD
C = 292 2V (distributor behind the carburetor).
R = San Jose CA Assembly Plant.
566933 = 1964 Numerical Sequence of Assembly, the trucks specific serial number. 1964 serial number range: 445,001-580,000.
352 is an FE engine, is completely different than a 292. FE engines have the distributor in front of the carburetor.
The VIN on the Warranty Plate (riveted to the left door face below the latch) is known as the Warranty Number.
FoMoCo said it was not for title or registration purposes, as it was too easy to change.
The usual reason: People replaced damaged left doors with used doors. 99.9% of the time, they failed to install the original Warranty Plates on the replaced doors.
Pictured truck in post #5 has a 1961 Custom Cab chrome steel grille. 1961 grilles have FORD in center, upper grille panel is plain.
1962/64 upper grille panel has FORD chrome letters on it. 1961/66 Standard Cab grilles are painted steel.
1962/66 Custom Cab & 1965/66 Ranger grilles are anodized aluminum.
This truck has 1961/66 F100/250 2WD front fenders, as they have a 36" opening radius.
1961/66 F100/250 4WD & F350 front fenders (except 1966 F100 4WD) have a 45" opening radius.
566933 = 1964 Numerical Sequence of Assembly, the trucks specific serial number. 1964 serial number range: 445,001-580,000.
352 is an FE engine, is completely different than a 292. FE engines have the distributor in front of the carburetor.
The VIN on the Warranty Plate (riveted to the left door face below the latch) is known as the Warranty Number.
FoMoCo said it was not for title or registration purposes, as it was too easy to change.
The usual reason: People replaced damaged left doors with used doors. 99.9% of the time, they failed to install the original Warranty Plates on the replaced doors.
Pictured truck in post #5 has a 1961 Custom Cab chrome steel grille. 1961 grilles have FORD in center, upper grille panel is plain.
1962/64 upper grille panel has FORD chrome letters on it. 1961/66 Standard Cab grilles are painted steel.
1962/66 Custom Cab & 1965/66 Ranger grilles are anodized aluminum.
This truck has 1961/66 F100/250 2WD front fenders, as they have a 36" opening radius.
1961/66 F100/250 4WD & F350 front fenders (except 1966 F100 4WD) have a 45" opening radius.
WOW. thank's for this wealth of knowledge!! SO. the 352 in the truck, doesnt bother me so much. I AM happy that the frame / cab matches. I suppose i cannot tell if the truck is an original custom cab, correct? With this said - im going to assume it IS an actual custom cab.
Is there anyway that i can find a period correct grill, and the proper front fenders? Any good sites other than Ebay for used parts for these things?
I suppose I cannot tell if the truck is an original custom cab, correct? Incorrect, there are ways to tell if it's a Custom Cab or not.
Is there anyway that I can find a period correct grill, and the proper front fenders? Any good sites other than Ebay for used parts for these things?
BODY code stamped on the 2nd line of the Warranty Plate, between the MODEL & TRANS codes. It's specific to Standard or Custom Cabs.
But if the left door has been changed, the info will no longer match.
1961/66 Custom Cabs have stainless steel windshield reveal mouldings (as pictured in post #5), Custom Cab nameplates (C1TZ-8125622-A - reproduced) on the doors.
1963/64's were available with optional Custom Cab door handle guards (reproduced), so there would be no nameplates on the doors.
Custom Cabs have anodized aluminum grilles (except 1961 that has a chrome steel grille), foam rubber seat cushion, dual sun visors and arm rests.
AFAIK, no one repro's the 1964 F100/750 Custom Cab grille (C4TZ-8200-B). The 45" radius front fenders can be very hard to find.
There were 6 used right & left 45" radius fenders at a local LA LA Land truck wrecking yard, but after I posted the info, someone went there and bought all the right sides.
BODY code stamped on the 2nd line of the Warranty Plate, between the MODEL & TRANS codes. It's specific to Standard or Custom Cabs.
But if the left door has been changed, the info will no longer match.
1961/66 Custom Cabs have stainless steel windshield reveal mouldings (as pictured in post #5), Custom Cab nameplates (C1TZ-8125622-A - reproduced) on the doors.
1963/64's were available with optional Custom Cab door handle guards (reproduced), so there would be no nameplates on the doors.
Custom Cabs have anodized aluminum grilles (except 1961 that has a chrome steel grille), foam rubber seat cushion, dual sun visors and arm rests.
AFAIK, no one repro's the 1964 F100/750 Custom Cab grille (C4TZ-8200-B). The 45" radius front fenders can be very hard to find.
There were 6 used right & left 45" radius fenders at a local LA LA Land truck wrecking yard, but after I posted the info, someone went there and bought all the right sides.
Wow this is interesting.
Okay. SO - I may have located some of the larger radius fenders. Currently looking deeper into it and having seller take some dimensions. As for the Grille - That stinks. Seems as though the 64 Grille is basically foolish to try and track down. Heck - I would take ANY 1964 grill. The finish wouldnt concern me much - This truck is going to be a daily driver for a long time to come ( hopefully ), not a show truck.
A few other big concerns for me at the moment are, what i can do to make this truck safe on the highway. No, i dont plan on doing 70mph, but i would really like to be able to hold the speed limit - 60 without feeling like im going to die lol. Right off the bat its going to be tires, full brake inspection, and hopefully sourcing some sort of dual bowl master as a fail-safe incase i lose a wheel cylinder or something. Next step will be weatherproofing the truck. All of the seals, a passenger side floor pan ( which it needs), all weatherstripping etc. anyone know of a site that sells a quality full rubber replacement kit for the cab?
Okay. SO - I may have located some of the larger radius fenders. Currently looking deeper into it and having seller take some dimensions. As for the Grille - That stinks. Seems as though the 64 Grille is basically foolish to try and track down. Heck - I would take ANY 1964 grill. The finish wouldnt concern me much - This truck is going to be a daily driver for a long time to come ( hopefully ), not a show truck.
A few other big concerns for me at the moment are, what i can do to make this truck safe on the highway. No, i dont plan on doing 70mph, but i would really like to be able to hold the speed limit - 60 without feeling like im going to die lol. Right off the bat its going to be tires, full brake inspection, and hopefully sourcing some sort of dual bowl master as a fail-safe incase i lose a wheel cylinder or something. Next step will be weatherproofing the truck. All of the seals, a passenger side floor pan ( which it needs), all weatherstripping etc. anyone know of a site that sells a quality full rubber replacement kit for the cab?
Nice truck! I remember seeing that on ebay a few times. I too am still hunting, after letting my last one go foolishly.
If you start a build thread for the things you listed as doing, you have come to the right place for all the information you will need.
Nice truck! I remember seeing that on ebay a few times. I too am still hunting, after letting my last one go foolishly.
If you start a build thread for the things you listed as doing, you have come to the right place for all the information you will need.
Thanks alot man. I was finding that 99% of all pre-77 trucks i found were complete, and total frankensteins. Atleast this is a factory 4wd 250. That makes me pretty happy. The engine was replaced, that just means I wont be so upset when i do a diesel or 390 swap down the road.
So far the biggest " concerns" for me are the following in this order.
1. Safety, IE Brakes and steering and general drivability/reliability.
2. Bed floor rot around the edges. Bed itself looks great but i was told its not.
3. Misc. Items like finding front and rear bumpers (cheap), correct grill and correct front fenders. The rest I can most certainly deal with.
I am told that the truck is essentially ready to be put on the road. Horn, heat, wipers, 4wd, brakes, all lights are in good running order or have been repaired / replaced. Still - I have a bit of OCD and will need to check all the following myself.
Thanks alot man. I was finding that 99% of all pre-77 trucks i found were complete, and total frankensteins. Atleast this is a factory 4wd 250. That makes me pretty happy. The engine was replaced, that just means I wont be so upset when i do a diesel or 390 swap down the road.
So far the biggest " concerns" for me are the following in this order.
1. Safety, IE Brakes and steering and general drivability/reliability.
2. Bed floor rot around the edges. Bed itself looks great but i was told its not.
3. Misc. Items like finding front and rear bumpers (cheap), correct grill and correct front fenders. The rest I can most certainly deal with.
I am told that the truck is essentially ready to be put on the road. Horn, heat, wipers, 4wd, brakes, all lights are in good running order or have been repaired / replaced. Still - I have a bit of OCD and will need to check all the following myself.
some additional photos.
Looks like a good start to me.
Yeah, I hear ya on the Frankensteins. How bad will the shipping be for you from one coast to the other?
Looks like a good start to me.
Yeah, I hear ya on the Frankensteins. How bad will the shipping be for you from one coast to the other?
Thank-you. Im insanely excited to start driving this truck everywhere. The lack of bumpers...is bothering me more than i could explain. Anyway - its going to cost.....alot. I couldn't have found a further point to ship from. At absolute best. im looking at about 1500.
Anyone know if repair panels are made for Bozo's that chopped up the factory dash to accept a different radio? I remember they made something like this for the old mustangs I think.
Thank-you. I'm insanely excited to start driving this truck everywhere.
The lack of bumpers...is bothering me more than i could explain.
Anyone know if repair panels are made for Bozo's that chopped up the factory dash to accept a different radio? Not that I'm aware of.
Front bumper is 'sorta' the same: 1964/77 F100/350; 1978 F100/350 before serial number AG0,001, but...
Ford changed the bumper ends in 1967, but retained the same 1964 part numbers. When installed on 1964/66's, the ends don't fit properly.
The repro chrome front bumper (the painted version is not reproduced) is based on the 1967 type that was the same thru 1977, early 1978.
Styleside "wrong" bed contour rear bumper is the same: 1957/60 F100/350; 1961/65 F100/250 4WD; 1961/66 F350; 1962/63 F100/250 2WD (not Uni's!); 1966 F250 4WD
When 1957/60 Styleside beds are installed on these 1961/66's, they are called "wrong" beds by enthusiasts, because the bed lines do not match the cab lines.
btw: 1961/63 front bumpers are different, use three mounting holes per side in a triangular shaped pattern. 1964/77 bumpers have two mounting holes per side.
............ Next step will be weatherproofing the truck. All of the seals, a passenger side floor pan ( which it needs), all weatherstripping etc. anyone know of a site that sells a quality full rubber replacement kit for the cab?
I haven't bought for mine yet but from reading everything I can it seems you probably can't go wrong with Dennis Carpenter for seals and such.
08-28-2017, 11:39 AM
Right off the bat its going to be tires, full brake inspection, and hopefully sourcing some sort of dual bowl master as a fail-safe incase i lose a wheel cylinder or something. Next step will be weatherproofing the truck. All of the seals, a passenger side floor pan ( which it needs), all weatherstripping etc. anyone know of a site that sells a quality full rubber replacement kit for the cab?
I remember they made something like this for the old mustangs I think.