Tonner Inner Tubes? 7.00 x 17
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Cargo Master
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Tonner Inner Tubes? 7.00 x 17
Hey guys, my inner tubes are finally shot on my wheels. Tires say 7.00 x 17. Tires are way shot and cracked but hopefully I can get new tubes to it rollin' around the acreage again.
What do you guys run for innertubes on your tonners? Mac's doesn't list 1-ton innertube sizes. Just 5.50 x but thats for 32-34 only, it shows.
Also, what about rim liners... should I invest in new rim liners?
What do you guys run for innertubes on your tonners? Mac's doesn't list 1-ton innertube sizes. Just 5.50 x but thats for 32-34 only, it shows.
Also, what about rim liners... should I invest in new rim liners?
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One you pull the tires, you know whther you need liners or not
Check with the local tractor supply for inner tubes.
Check the inside of the tire real good, don't want any hard rubber sticking out on the new tubes...might be time (and chaper) to upgrade to something more modern in the used category
Check with the local tractor supply for inner tubes.
Check the inside of the tire real good, don't want any hard rubber sticking out on the new tubes...might be time (and chaper) to upgrade to something more modern in the used category
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Good idea, I'll check some local tractor stores. I can't find anything on tubes on the internet.
Not really interested in changing over from the split rims. I'd like to keep it original. Where do you buy thse kind of tires?! The tires that are on it now have got to be from the 60's at least.... ancient firestones and such =)
Not really interested in changing over from the split rims. I'd like to keep it original. Where do you buy thse kind of tires?! The tires that are on it now have got to be from the 60's at least.... ancient firestones and such =)
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Wow, I'd bet Coker has them, but cost might be a deterent/
Another thing, since 17inch tires are pretty common in modern stuff...you might expand your search...don't know how wide a tire you can run on your wheels though...seems like most modern truck 17 inch wheels are about an 8inch wide, or so.
Another thing, since 17inch tires are pretty common in modern stuff...you might expand your search...don't know how wide a tire you can run on your wheels though...seems like most modern truck 17 inch wheels are about an 8inch wide, or so.
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Thanks.. so you can run radial tires on split rims but only with special radial tubes.... then bias tires need bias tubes, correct?
Looks like I can get Firestone 700-17 (which I assume is same as 7.00 x 17) tires for $160 each... which don't think is that bad for antique replica tires...
Looks like bias tubes are $25... there's a guy on ebay too, waiting for a reply to buy tubes. I can't remember but I think need bent stem tubes... I think?
Looks like I can get Firestone 700-17 (which I assume is same as 7.00 x 17) tires for $160 each... which don't think is that bad for antique replica tires...
Looks like bias tubes are $25... there's a guy on ebay too, waiting for a reply to buy tubes. I can't remember but I think need bent stem tubes... I think?
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Those 7.00 x 17s will probably be car tires if it matters to you. The only truck 17s that I've found are 7.50 x 17s. A good American made source of bias ply tires in this size is Specialty Tire of America. You can find them on the Universal Tire web site.
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Thanks for the good tip. I'm going to order some tubes and I guess "flaps" as well.
The only flap they offer is 17 x 5. I can only assume that works for the 700 x 17 as well. I got one rim apart and inspect what the problem was. The flap and the tube were shot.
It looks like these tonners need center bent brass stem inner tube.
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I didn't mention this before, but you need to check whether your wheels are the older "lock ring" style or the later ones that are called "widow makers". Technically, widow makers, in the trade and in the courtroom, are known as Firestone RH-5°. I looked at your gallery and can't be sure but that's what I think I see. I'd suggest doing a forum search of the terms "widow maker", "Firestone RH-5°", and "multi-part wheel safety". This subject gets worked over pretty good over on the 48-60 page because virtually all the big trucks of that era came with widow makers. You'll find good diagrams and pictures of them in your forum search. You guys with the older trucks become exposed to them at about the end of WWII. I've got a good library of old wheel listings and see that the design doesn't show up until around 1944 or 1945. It's a big issue today because very few shops will work on them for insurance and liability reasons. Hope that helps some. Stu
This came up on this side of FTE on a thread entitled "46 Wheels". Last post was June 5th. You might check that out too. I posted diagrams there of the lock ring design. Stu
This came up on this side of FTE on a thread entitled "46 Wheels". Last post was June 5th. You might check that out too. I posted diagrams there of the lock ring design. Stu
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Mine are the lock ring.
Which was quite an experience getting it off! First had to figure out how they work, then broke a 3/8" craftsman screwdriver, bent numerous pry bars before going out to the truck to get the miracle tool. I had this lug wrench with a special bent tip aparently just for this job. It worked great.
Which was quite an experience getting it off! First had to figure out how they work, then broke a 3/8" craftsman screwdriver, bent numerous pry bars before going out to the truck to get the miracle tool. I had this lug wrench with a special bent tip aparently just for this job. It worked great.
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Great news. Go for it. We aware, though, that lock ring wheels can be as dangerous to work on as widow makers. Best is to have them done professionally, or if doing them yourself, use a cage when inflating. Go slow to make sure the ring seats correctly. Stu
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