Stroked Buick 215 in a 46 Ford pickup
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Stroked Buick 215 in a 46 Ford pickup
I recently came upon an all aluminum Buick 215 motor, having been interested in them for the last three years. Aluminum block, heads, and about everything else other than crank, cam and main caps, valves etc. 200 HP out of a stock motor that weighs 315 lbs fully assembled.
The rough plan currently is to get a Buick crank from a 300 cu in 64-66 model for a stroked 250. Maybe 5 lbs weight gain for total HP of 230-240. Trans still not known.
The rough plan currently is to get a Buick crank from a 300 cu in 64-66 model for a stroked 250. Maybe 5 lbs weight gain for total HP of 230-240. Trans still not known.
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I almost went that route with my '36, but more cubes and support of the 5.0 (plus cost) led me away.
I always thought they were the perfect mill to run in a T-bucket, but never seemed to catch on.
Do they have the BOP pattern BH?
I always thought they were the perfect mill to run in a T-bucket, but never seemed to catch on.
Do they have the BOP pattern BH?
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Mike, Not sure about what BH refers to, but this IS a BOP 215. I figure with my current Y powered 46 at 2800 lbs, this should end up being 2600, and seat of the pants acceleration will be equivalent, though mileage much improved.
I like the Y a lot. In fact there is a new shortblock on the stand now. But its drawbacks regarding transmission, motor mounts, and exhaust routing are just too much for me in a transplant application. I have accomplished them all, sort of, but not in the way I would like.
So maybe someday if I live long enough I will have a handle of 215Jailbar.
I like the Y a lot. In fact there is a new shortblock on the stand now. But its drawbacks regarding transmission, motor mounts, and exhaust routing are just too much for me in a transplant application. I have accomplished them all, sort of, but not in the way I would like.
So maybe someday if I live long enough I will have a handle of 215Jailbar.
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I almost went that route with my '36, but more cubes and support of the 5.0 (plus cost) led me away.
I always thought they were the perfect mill to run in a T-bucket, but never seemed to catch on.
Do they have the BOP pattern BH?
I always thought they were the perfect mill to run in a T-bucket, but never seemed to catch on.
Do they have the BOP pattern BH?
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Mike, we used to have '63 Buick 215 V8 here, and as you know, that engine is so light. We sold to a guy who was actually going to built a V16 out of them by mating 2 blocks end to end. If he ever got them to work, I don't know. But sure would have been interesting.
The BOP 215 used a special bolt pattern on the bell housing, one not shared by anything else. Check out D&D in Michigan for some aluminum V8 stuff.
The BOP 215 used a special bolt pattern on the bell housing, one not shared by anything else. Check out D&D in Michigan for some aluminum V8 stuff.
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Didn't the British Land Rover use the 215 cid BOP engine? I believe so.
There were two versions of the 215 originally. The "Power Pack" option consisted of high compression heads, 4V carb, and dual exhausts. This boosted the standard engines HP of 155 to 185. A 3 speed manual was standard, Hydra-Matic was optional (except on the Tempests which had the unique transaxle and "rubber" driveshaft on the first gen models).
There were two versions of the 215 originally. The "Power Pack" option consisted of high compression heads, 4V carb, and dual exhausts. This boosted the standard engines HP of 155 to 185. A 3 speed manual was standard, Hydra-Matic was optional (except on the Tempests which had the unique transaxle and "rubber" driveshaft on the first gen models).
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Gary, yes they are light, so much so that I manually lifted the bare block and put it into the Honda trunk to take to the machine shop.
Number Dummy, yeah Rover/British Leyland bought the rights and all the tooling from GM and used them in Rovers up until 92 I think.
There is an Olds tranny on ebay for a 215 that is a 3 speed Auto. Too bad it is on the other side of the country. As you said the Buicks had 2 speed autos.
There is one series of this motor, naturally aspirated, listed in 1963 that has it at 200 HP. Not sure what or how that was accomplished, but the heads I have are the high compression variety with either 37 or 38 cc CC. On tear down a Crane cam appeared. Good condition and Crane was able to give the specs even though it was a very old grind. The design is to increase low rpm torque, good to 5000 rpm, so I am going to have it reground.
To have a set of custom made headers for my Y would cost $500-900 depending upon who I talk to. That would still leave the tranny to fix, and a rearrangement of the motor mounts. So maybe it is time to go a different route.
Mike
Number Dummy, yeah Rover/British Leyland bought the rights and all the tooling from GM and used them in Rovers up until 92 I think.
There is an Olds tranny on ebay for a 215 that is a 3 speed Auto. Too bad it is on the other side of the country. As you said the Buicks had 2 speed autos.
There is one series of this motor, naturally aspirated, listed in 1963 that has it at 200 HP. Not sure what or how that was accomplished, but the heads I have are the high compression variety with either 37 or 38 cc CC. On tear down a Crane cam appeared. Good condition and Crane was able to give the specs even though it was a very old grind. The design is to increase low rpm torque, good to 5000 rpm, so I am going to have it reground.
To have a set of custom made headers for my Y would cost $500-900 depending upon who I talk to. That would still leave the tranny to fix, and a rearrangement of the motor mounts. So maybe it is time to go a different route.
Mike
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Yes, after GM was done with the engine in '63 the casting molds and all were sold to Rover where they slightly modified the castings and used them for years, increasing the displacment along the way. I have heard that the Rover intakes will bolt directly onto the BOP 215.
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