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Old Sep 7, 2010 | 10:58 AM
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Any Buick guys here ?

I have a 95 Buick Le Sabre 3800 . Stalls intermittently (starts right back up) . Scanner says cam/crank sensor error . It has both . just wondering which is more common ? thanks
 
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Old Sep 7, 2010 | 12:59 PM
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Don`t know but I would wonder if both sensors are OK and are just seeing too big a difference between the two (worn timing chain?).
 
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Old Sep 7, 2010 | 02:47 PM
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If you hear a rattle at the front end of the engine, then it needs a timing chain. Very common on GMs of this era, you are lucky to get more than 50k out of a stock chain. It's about a three hour job if you have a lift, a little hard on the back if you don't since pretty much all the work is done through the wheelwell.
 
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Old Sep 8, 2010 | 02:40 PM
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Thanks guys

It has around 85,000 on it ..No rattling in the area of the chain ..
 
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Old Sep 8, 2010 | 03:18 PM
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I have one of those ~ it has gone through two crank position sensors in the last year. Of course, it's the harder one to change!!
 
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Old Sep 8, 2010 | 03:29 PM
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my gut says the cam sensor..if it is running and shutting down
 
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Old Sep 8, 2010 | 03:42 PM
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My car did the exact same thing,, stall and start right back up and it was the crank p sensor,,,

But, the cam one is no problem to change, just two screws and you're done.

If it still does it, then you will know!!
 
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Old Sep 8, 2010 | 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Ford_Six
If you hear a rattle at the front end of the engine, then it needs a timing chain. Very common on GMs of this era, you are lucky to get more than 50k out of a stock chain. It's about a three hour job if you have a lift, a little hard on the back if you don't since pretty much all the work is done through the wheelwell.
I have never seen a buick timing chain, or any gm chain for that matter fail, ever, regardless of miles, make or oil level. yeah, some nylon gears from the 70's got noisy...

but that said...

the sensor can and does go bad. the 3800, being the first SFI engine in the US, has relied on that little piece of voodoo for decades in various incantations. they are expensive, which is why there are none in the boneyards, and contrary to rumor, the 3.3 engine sensor will not drive the 3.8.

swap it out and put another 200K on it. Its not wards all time best engine worldwide frivolously.
 
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