Just bought a 74 need help
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Just bought a 74 need help
Hey all, I just bought a 74 f250 2wd 360 4 speed. I found out today what I thought was bad freeze plugs was masterful hiding of a cracked block. I'm going to try to hunt down a 390 to swap. Will the T 19 bolt up to a 460? I'm beyond pissed, but this is the hand I was dealt. Thanks ya'll.
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The transmission should be a NP435 in the truck, T19 was used in the 80's behind the IDI trucks. The 460 can be made to swap but its going to take some effort and parts. The swap has been done and is documented here.
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FE bell housing is a different pattern than the 1983/97 460 and there were two different FE bell housings used in 1965/66 F100/350's with the 352.
Warner T-19 introduced in 1973/76 F350 300/360/390, 1977/79 F350 300/351M/400 but was not available in 1979 F350 with 4WD
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No such thing as a 460 bell housing until 1983, as this was the first year the 460 (F250/350 only) was available with a M/T (and 4WD). All 1968/82 460's came w/a C6.
FE bell housing is a different pattern than the 1983/97 460 and there were two different FE bell housings used in 1965/66 F100/350's with the 352.
Warner T-19 introduced in 1973/76 F350 300/360/390, 1977/79 F350 300/351M/400 but was not available in 1979 F350 with 4WD
FE bell housing is a different pattern than the 1983/97 460 and there were two different FE bell housings used in 1965/66 F100/350's with the 352.
Warner T-19 introduced in 1973/76 F350 300/360/390, 1977/79 F350 300/351M/400 but was not available in 1979 F350 with 4WD
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Dave145 you are correct with what you stated previously. Bill was just clarifying some details. However a 351m/400 bellhousing will work for the 460 to be bolted to the manual trans. Just keep in mind that you'll also need the correct flywheel for the 460. There are 2 different one for the 460. And someone else can clarify how to tell which one you'll need for the 460 you have, but I can tell you that there is an internally balanced flywheel and an externally balanced flywheel. Actually its the engine it's self that's internally or externally balanced. But you need to make sure that you get the proper flywheel. Also keep in mind that the correct clutch kit is much more $$$ than the ones for the 360/390 and the 351m/400. Also be sure that the 351 that you get the bellhousing from is actually a modified and NOT a Windsor block. They ARE different and the Windsor bellhousing WON'T work since the bolt pattern is smaller. And there are a lot of people out there claiming to have a 351 modified when it's actually a 351 Windsor. And vice versa. So it's best that you learn how to tell the difference between the 2 if you don't already know.
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Dave145 you are correct with what you stated previously. Bill was just clarifying some details. However a 351M/400 bellhousing will work for the 460 to be bolted to the manual trans. Just keep in mind that you'll also need the correct flywheel for the 460. There are 2 different one for the 460.
And someone else can clarify how to tell which one you'll need for the 460 you have, but I can tell you that there is an internally balanced flywheel and an externally balanced flywheel.
Actually its the engine itself that's internally or externally balanced. But you need to make sure that you get the proper flywheel.
And someone else can clarify how to tell which one you'll need for the 460 you have, but I can tell you that there is an internally balanced flywheel and an externally balanced flywheel.
Actually its the engine itself that's internally or externally balanced. But you need to make sure that you get the proper flywheel.
There are no before/from serial numbers or production dates, the block casting number is required to get the correct flywheel (flexplate) and harmonic balancer.
Internal balance: Block casting number D1VE-6015-AB or A1B or A2B: 1971/73 429; 1971/78 460; some 1979 460.
External balance: Block casting number D9TE-6015-AB: Some 1979 460; 1980/97 460.
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390's are great engines. As mentioned the 460 will require a bell, flywheel and clutch. You might need the 460 frame mounts from a 70's 460 truck. I don't know if FE was the same. I think Transdapt makes a 460/429 2WD swap kit and I think you need a front sump pan and pick up. 4x4 is rear sump.
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1973/79 F100/350 460 // The brackets bolt to the block, the rubber insulators bolt to the brackets then to the supports.
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Thank you all for the replies. I think I'll see if I can locate a 390 at one of the yards around here. A few of them have vintage vehicles. Is a 390 a 390? Meaning car or truck engine will bolt up? Thanks again.
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The only differences are the crank, rods and pistons. EVERYTHING else is the same.
4th digit of the VIN is the engine code. 1968/76 F100/350: H = 390 2V // M = 390 4V (1974/76) // Y = 360 2V
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