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Old Jul 5, 2016 | 06:44 AM
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Short Snout 10.25 vs Long Snout 10.25

Long story short, my '95 pinion bearing is wasted. Has a ton of play side to side and front to back. Also my drums are shot/frozen on axle

Found a '89 10.25 for $150 with good brakes and new pinion seal.

Will my slip yoke be able to accommodate the shorter snout on the '89 axle? I found 1 thread saying yes...but want to make sure
 
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Old Jul 5, 2016 | 09:36 AM
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The difference between long and short pinion is 3/8" ...

I have gone both ways without issue on stock height trucks. It could be an issue on a lifted truck!

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Old Jul 5, 2016 | 08:16 PM
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Yes it will work. I went the opposite way on my truck when I lifted it with no ill effects.

That being said, in 1989 the speedometer was read off of a gear in the transmission/transfer case. In your truck, it's read off of the rear end on a tone ring. The 89 axle has no provisions for that.
 
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Old Jul 5, 2016 | 08:31 PM
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thx for the confirmation guys. I was aware of the speed sensor...but honestly all my driving is <50 mph here, so I could live without the speedo

I did some door sticker decoding and axle tags...and I have the 4.10 gears with a Dana 50 up front

found another 4.10 axle a little bit closer for $175. gonna pick it up tomorrow. the original 10.25 I found this morning was a 3.55LS.
 
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Old Jul 5, 2016 | 08:33 PM
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87 and up 10.25 has VSS ... It was only used for ABS until 92 I believe when the speedo went electric.

That does NOT mean they didn't use pre 87 housings in post 86 applications!

-Enjoy
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Old Jul 5, 2016 | 09:20 PM
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i put a short yoke (1989) axle in place of the long yoke (1993) in chip truck.

parts required:

Carquest Part #2-3050 Rear of Rear Drive Shaft Conversion U-Joint & Moog #331-10 Yoke Strap Kit.


chip truck is a 4wd truck with a slip yoke transfer case.the driveshaft just didn't slide in as far as it used to (but more than enough still)
 
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Old Jul 5, 2016 | 09:22 PM
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I'm with Festus.

My 87 has tone ring on the carrier and a sensor in the top of the pumpkin.
 
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Old Jul 5, 2016 | 10:42 PM
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The boiling point for the OP is ... We all agree long and short pinion swap ok!

The OP needs to ensure it has a VSS port (and or sensor) in the top of the housing.

I assume it's a SRW (Single Rear Wheel)?

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update: Got the axle for $110 with some "slight" rust. supposedly out of a '96 truck, but pinion length is different from my '95 pinion...so I'm guessing it's an older axle. works, so no biggie

got her cleaned up with prodigious use of a hammer and chisel. then all new brake lines and installed.

VSS on the pumpkin works. just need to get that conversion u-joint. it drives around the block right now, but I'm not happy with the slop
 
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anyone have a pic of the "older style straps" that are needed with the conversion u-joint?

my '95 axle straps are bolted through the pinion with a nut
the "new" axle straps are slightly different shaped, and use a torx bolt that threads directly into the pinion
 
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Originally Posted by Tylus
anyone have a pic of the "older style straps" that are needed with the conversion u-joint?

my '95 axle straps are bolted through the pinion with a nut
the "new" axle straps are slightly different shaped, and use a torx bolt that threads directly into the pinion
https://www.google.com/search?q=Moog...w=1024&bih=623

https://www.google.com/search?q=Carq...2-3050+u-joint
 
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Old Jul 24, 2016 | 09:05 PM
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thx

so the straps currently in the truck are the ones I need. looks like MOOG #448 is the same U-joint as the #2-3050 joint. same specifications
 
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oh cool.i replaced mine last year with a moog.i wrote down moog in my records but forgot the part#.i was at a job and had to pull the rear shaft,lock the hubs and go to the auto store in front wheel drive.replace it and go back to work.in my haste i didn't record to part number......so thanks!
i suppose i could of looked it up and figured it out but i forgot about it.so good to have in my records.
 
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Done that. Fwd steering sucks lol

I was having no luck finding the 2-3050 u-joint. So started searching by sizing. That's where the Moog 448 comes from.
 
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Old Jul 24, 2016 | 09:57 PM
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I put a long snout from a '94 in my '89 and had to piece together a u-joint from 3 u-joints. I used 2 small caps from one, the cross from the 2nd one, and 2 caps from the 3rd. There was one listed that was the correct size out of the box but they didn't have it and it was 4 days away by order. Thank goodness I have a very patient parts store to go to!
 
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