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Old Oct 4, 2010 | 10:28 AM
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power steering pully

just bought and installed power steering in my 66 f-100. Got it off e-bay. it suposed to have come off a 66 with a 352. pump seems good.brackets also. The hoses were alittle short but with alittle work got them on too. steering box slid right in no problem but, the triple pulley that bolts to the balancer did NOT line up correctly so i drilled three new holes. Its on but,it wabbels alittle bit and it is close but not lined up perfectly with the power steering pump. Is there a specific pulley that would fit or did I just not line it up correctly? I also filled it with tranny fluid not power steering fluid is that OK? I'm new to rebuilding and can use all the help I can get. Thanks
 
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Old Oct 4, 2010 | 05:17 PM
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ATF will work just fine, some here might not agree with me. but i have used it many times in the past with no problems.

If you need to space the bracket out to align the belt try a washer(or 2) between the bracket and the block.... vise-versa if you need to space out the pully.
 
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Old Oct 4, 2010 | 06:17 PM
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Actually, most of the reman p/s parts I've seen for Fords specify ATF and not clear p/s fluid.
 
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Old Oct 21, 2010 | 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by jimmmack
just bought and installed power steering in my 66 f-100. Got it off e-bay. it suposed to have come off a 66 with a 352. pump seems good.brackets also. The hoses were alittle short but with alittle work got them on too. steering box slid right in no problem but, the triple pulley that bolts to the balancer did NOT line up correctly so i drilled three new holes. Its on but,it wabbels alittle bit and it is close but not lined up perfectly with the power steering pump. Is there a specific pulley that would fit or did I just not line it up correctly? I also filled it with tranny fluid not power steering fluid is that OK? I'm new to rebuilding and can use all the help I can get. Thanks
The balancer and its assorted outer pulleys used thru 1967 have THREE mounting holes.

Ford changed the balancer is 1968, it has FOUR mounting holes.

There are a few THREE bolt outer pulleys for 1961/67's available NOS, either one, two or three sheave (groove). These are the same as 1961/67 passenger cars.

1966/68 F100/250 2WD's & 1969 F100/250 2WD's before serial number D96,001 used BENDIX P/S.
 
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Old Oct 21, 2010 | 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
The balancer and its assorted outer pulleys used thru 1967 have THREE mounting holes.

Ford changed the balancer is 1968, it has FOUR mounting holes.

There are a few THREE bolt outer pulleys for 1961/67's available NOS, either one, two or three sheave (groove). These are the same as 1961/67 passenger cars.

1966/68 F100/250 2WD's & 1969 F100/250 2WD's before serial number D96,001 used BENDIX P/S.
Well, now I AM confused. I have a pulley clearly stamped C8AE-6312-E (1968, right?) that has THREE holes, but still will not bolt up to my C4ish harmonic balancer. Sure, it's just slightly off, but the diameters of the bolt patterns are different. What gives?
 
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Old Oct 22, 2010 | 02:06 AM
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There is no outer pulley listed in the car or truck parts catalog or O-S-I (Obsolete-Supercede-Interchange) catalog with an ID number of C8AE-6312-E so I dunno what you have.

AFAIK, all 1968 and later FE outer pulley's have 4 bolt holes, so are not listed for 1967 and earlier.
 
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Old Oct 22, 2010 | 05:36 AM
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Bill, Google Ford C8AE-6312-E

A pulley as described does come up in several places, with photos.






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Old Oct 22, 2010 | 01:59 PM
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Bill, Google Ford C8AE-6312-E

A pulley as described does come up in several places, with photos.
John, if the Ford car and truck parts catalogs, and the O-S-I catalogs do not list this C8AE-6312-E ID number, I'm not going by some description I might find by googling it.

Since the info did not come from FoMoCo, who knows if it's correct...or not?
 
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Bill with all respect, that is why I have so much indigestion with much of what you post. I just read yesterday a post by you ripping the very source that you and holding tightly today, and I don't understand that. You were busting Ford for changing part numbers by the thousands. When there is good images of the parts you don't want to take a look.

A link for others that might want to take a look C8AE-6312-E shows in 4 photos the Ford emblem, the part umber and a general description of the part that is described above.

You are a valuable player here.

There is a huge amount of Ford parts that will interchange and work in the older vehicles. There is no denying that even if you want to.






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Old Oct 23, 2010 | 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by jowilker

You are a valuable player here.







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That is for sure.
 
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Old Oct 23, 2010 | 11:46 AM
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My '66 352 with is set up with the stamped 2 groove C8AE-6312-E pulley. It is bolted to balancer D5TE-DA. Everything (water pump/alternator and Ford P/S pump) seems to line up correctly, even though it is a later setup.



According to ND, the actual setup is C4AE-6316-B balancer and cast iron pulley like this one (3 sheave shown) = 4 belt grooves total. Other numbers of pulley/belt combinations were available.



The C4AE balancer has degree marks and an integral belt groove whereas the later D5TE has degree marks, but no belt groove.

The later balancer is larger and heavier. The cast iron pulley helps make up for the weight difference of the lighter, earlier balancer, so re-drilling a C8AE pulley would not be the optimum installation for use with the earlier balancer.

In addition, the cast pulley has a shoulder shown above on the rear that fits into the earlier balancer center hole to help keep things aligned. I never could find a number on the cast iron pulley shown, except for CA1N. Here is the front:



Hope this helps.
 
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Originally Posted by jowilker
Bill with all respect, that is why I have so much indigestion with much of what you post. I just read yesterday a post by you ripping the very source that you and holding tightly today, and I don't understand that. You were busting Ford for changing part numbers by the thousands. When there is good images of the parts you don't want to take a look.

A link for others that might want to take a look C8AE-6312-E shows in 4 photos the Ford emblem, the part umber and a general description of the part that is described above.

You are a valuable player here.

There is a huge amount of Ford parts that will interchange and work in the older vehicles. There is no denying that even if you want to.






John
You are 100% correct. Ford didn't change to the 4 bolt lower balancer and pulleys until 1970. In '68 the balancer changed and no integrated first groove pulley. But . . it still used a 3 bolt pulley. . . until 1970 when the balancer became a 4 bolt. I believe even the early 429 was 3 bolt as well . .until 1970. I just like the records to have accurate information. Don't mind me
 
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13 years to late.
You're not very bright when you can't see the full picture and only troll along. Best thing to do when you are of this type, is just stay quiet. Go it son?
 
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In your time machine again..? lol
 
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