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I'm looking to "improve" the function of the headlamps on the 2010 F150 sitting in my garage. My 2001 F150 has the SVT headlamp bodies with PIAA Extreme white bulbs in them. It produces a very distinct,wide horizontal pattern which was excellent for spotting deer about to cross in front of me. High beams were like having a pair of KC Daylighters on the bumper. The PIAA's are still a choice at this point but an expensive one now since I don't have the purchasing discounts available that I did when I was a dealership employee. The other options like Crystal Vision Ultras and X-Treme power by Phillips, Has anyone put these in their 2010 stock headlamp bodies yet?
If so how do you like them compared to the stock bulbs?
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Eric.
If so how do you like them compared to the stock bulbs?
Thanks
Eric.
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I'm looking to "improve" the function of the headlamps on the 2010 F150 sitting in my garage. My 2001 F150 has the SVT headlamp bodies with PIAA Extreme white bulbs in them. It produces a very distinct,wide horizontal pattern which was excellent for spotting deer about to cross in front of me. High beams were like having a pair of KC Daylighters on the bumper. The PIAA's are still a choice at this point but an expensive one now since I don't have the purchasing discounts available that I did when I was a dealership employee. The other options like Crystal Vision Ultras and X-Treme power by Phillips, Has anyone put these in their 2010 stock headlamp bodies yet?
If so how do you like them compared to the stock bulbs?
Thanks
Eric.
If so how do you like them compared to the stock bulbs?
Thanks
Eric.
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Ge Nighthawk (not sport) gets my vote. You can get them on Amazon. Our local Ford dealership actually sells them too. I have not used the newer Nighthawk, but the regular one is a really good bulb. Sylvania Xtravision are good too. All the tinted bulbs are crap including Silverstar. If there is any type of colored coating on the bulb it belongs in the trash. Those PIAA bulbs are not brighter they are just whiter. The light that was removed by the filter actually makes them less bright. Its just an illusion that they are brighter because of the color. They might be brighter if they are over wattage.
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Ge Nighthawk (not sport) gets my vote. You can get them on Amazon. Our local Ford dealership actually sells them too. I have not used the newer Nighthawk, but the regular one is a really good bulb. Sylvania Xtravision are good too. All the tinted bulbs are crap including Silverstar. If there is any type of colored coating on the bulb it belongs in the trash. Those PIAA bulbs are not brighter they are just whiter. The light that was removed by the filter actually makes them less bright. Its just an illusion that they are brighter because of the color. They might be brighter if they are over wattage.
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I don't want to be a jerk here but you need to be certain of your facts before you post. I work part time at O'Reilly Auto Parts where we sell many different types of replacement bulbs. I have been to classes put on by Sylvania. I can assure you that the Silverstar product is not like those tinted blue bulbs (although Sylvania does make a product called Cool Blue) that all the kids like. Silverstar's projects a white light that is most definitely brighter that stock. I have had them on my Excursion (both headlight and fog lights) for the past 5 years and really like them. I have just recently installed Phillips Crystal Vision Ultra's in my F150 and they too are not the blue tint bulbs that you are thinking of. So far I like them too. You mention the GE Nighthawk and from what I can tell from their website they are the same type as the Silverstar's.
I have had Sylvania Silverstar and Silvertar Ultra and they both pretty much suck. They are just whiter than stock so it seems brighter. The GE Nighthawks illuminate the road much better, as do Sylvania Xtravision. The Silverstars are also lousy in bad weather. Any tinted/colored coating on a bulb is going to reduce the amount of light emitted from it. Even if its brighter than stock, the bulb will not produce as many lumens. Clear bulbs win.
Your right about cool blue, those are very bad bulbs and should not even be street legal. They are really dim.
There are two typs of Nighthawk. The regular one is clear and the sport series is tinted. They have a new one called platinum, but I don't know anything abou those.
If you went to a class that was put on by the manufacturer, they are not going are going to tell you all the good points about their product and none of the bad.
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First week of owning my 2009 FX4, I raced down to the wally mart and picked up the xtravision. Something needed to be done. I can say they are a much lighter temp-color than the stock bulbs. I would love an upgrade beyond these if there is one, but I will not use the "blue" bulbs. I'm not sure I will shell out the coin for silverstars just to see if they suit me better as the wattage is the same. It's just different temp-colors that we see as long as the wattage is the same. My fog lights are also the xtravision, but 5 watts higher than what the manual calls for as the fog bulbs are a strange wattage. I have no adverse effects from the hotter bulb in the fog lamps.
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These are clear and work great.
Amazon.com: GE 9007NH/BP2 Nighthawk Automotive Replacement Bulbs - Pack of 2: Automotive
These are tinted and are more like Silverstar, so they are junk too.
Amazon.com: GE Nighthawk SPORT 9007NHS/BP2 Automotive Replacement Bulbs, Pack of 2: Automotive
These are the new ones and they are tinted on the edge of the bulb, so I don't know how well they work.
Amazon.com: GE NIGHTHAWK 9007NHP/BP2 Platinum Replacement Bulb, Pack of 2: Automotive
Amazon.com: GE 9007NH/BP2 Nighthawk Automotive Replacement Bulbs - Pack of 2: Automotive
These are tinted and are more like Silverstar, so they are junk too.
Amazon.com: GE Nighthawk SPORT 9007NHS/BP2 Automotive Replacement Bulbs, Pack of 2: Automotive
These are the new ones and they are tinted on the edge of the bulb, so I don't know how well they work.
Amazon.com: GE NIGHTHAWK 9007NHP/BP2 Platinum Replacement Bulb, Pack of 2: Automotive
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First week of owning my 2009 FX4, I raced down to the wally mart and picked up the xtravision. Something needed to be done. I can say they are a much lighter temp-color than the stock bulbs. I would love an upgrade beyond these if there is one, but I will not use the "blue" bulbs. I'm not sure I will shell out the coin for silverstars just to see if they suit me better as the wattage is the same. It's just different temp-colors that we see as long as the wattage is the same. My fog lights are also the xtravision, but 5 watts higher than what the manual calls for as the fog bulbs are a strange wattage. I have no adverse effects from the hotter bulb in the fog lamps.
Another thing you can do to get brighter bulbs is to use relays to run the headlights. I know the older stuff benefits from this. The newer stuff may already use relays.
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I'm going to stay out of the which lamp is better arguement. I was a lighting engineer for 2 of the manufacturer's you guys are throwing around. And like Daniel J Stern or you guys, I do have an opinion but.....
But does anyone know if this Daniel J Stern, Daniel Stern Lighting Consultancy and Supply is the same as this Daniel J Stern, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Stern_(actor) . Interestingly the actor was once a lighting engineer.
But does anyone know if this Daniel J Stern, Daniel Stern Lighting Consultancy and Supply is the same as this Daniel J Stern, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Stern_(actor) . Interestingly the actor was once a lighting engineer.
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TexasGuy001,
I looked at the PIAA box which I kept the original bulbs in. It does say something like 75/85 watt. Sorry I can't remember for sure. I should of written it on my hand or something. Gettin' old sucks. The glass tube of the bulbs is clear with the exception of a silver "cap" on the tip. I did find them on Amazon.com for about $65 a pair. Thats alot better than NAPA's $98 price.
I'm contemplating selling the 4 pc set of SVT tail lights and headlight bodies from my '01 S/C and a factory EVTM book as well.
Thanks
E.
I looked at the PIAA box which I kept the original bulbs in. It does say something like 75/85 watt. Sorry I can't remember for sure. I should of written it on my hand or something. Gettin' old sucks. The glass tube of the bulbs is clear with the exception of a silver "cap" on the tip. I did find them on Amazon.com for about $65 a pair. Thats alot better than NAPA's $98 price.
I'm contemplating selling the 4 pc set of SVT tail lights and headlight bodies from my '01 S/C and a factory EVTM book as well.
Thanks
E.
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D.J. Stern has some nice products. I can see a few things I could use in other vehicles.
If he is the actor, he may be good at lighting, appearantly he "squints" quite a bit...
SVT2205...I for one would like to hear your opinion. Knowledgable input is why I am here.
Texasguy, I think the Nighthawks will be my next choice. I've never tried them, but have heard a good bit of favorable reviews. the extravisions are available locally, thus my purchase in haste.
For me, good lighting is important and the factory bulbs are a compramise at best - like the Pirelli tires on the 20" wheels. This is one area that an upgrade is easy, affordable, and effective for safety. I live in a rural area; I feel like I cannot have enough light within the capabilaties of the factory lenses - I think they are relayed at this time Texasguy. It makes the autolamp/courtesy lights possible thru the "body" control unit I presume.
If he is the actor, he may be good at lighting, appearantly he "squints" quite a bit...
SVT2205...I for one would like to hear your opinion. Knowledgable input is why I am here.
Texasguy, I think the Nighthawks will be my next choice. I've never tried them, but have heard a good bit of favorable reviews. the extravisions are available locally, thus my purchase in haste.
For me, good lighting is important and the factory bulbs are a compramise at best - like the Pirelli tires on the 20" wheels. This is one area that an upgrade is easy, affordable, and effective for safety. I live in a rural area; I feel like I cannot have enough light within the capabilaties of the factory lenses - I think they are relayed at this time Texasguy. It makes the autolamp/courtesy lights possible thru the "body" control unit I presume.
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TexasGuy001,
I looked at the PIAA box which I kept the original bulbs in. It does say something like 75/85 watt. Sorry I can't remember for sure. I should of written it on my hand or something. Gettin' old sucks. The glass tube of the bulbs is clear with the exception of a silver "cap" on the tip. I did find them on Amazon.com for about $65 a pair. Thats alot better than NAPA's $98 price.
I'm contemplating selling the 4 pc set of SVT tail lights and headlight bodies from my '01 S/C and a factory EVTM book as well.
Thanks
E.
I looked at the PIAA box which I kept the original bulbs in. It does say something like 75/85 watt. Sorry I can't remember for sure. I should of written it on my hand or something. Gettin' old sucks. The glass tube of the bulbs is clear with the exception of a silver "cap" on the tip. I did find them on Amazon.com for about $65 a pair. Thats alot better than NAPA's $98 price.
I'm contemplating selling the 4 pc set of SVT tail lights and headlight bodies from my '01 S/C and a factory EVTM book as well.
Thanks
E.
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D.J. Stern has some nice products. I can see a few things I could use in other vehicles.
If he is the actor, he may be good at lighting, appearantly he "squints" quite a bit...
SVT2205...I for one would like to hear your opinion. Knowledgable input is why I am here.
Texasguy, I think the Nighthawks will be my next choice. I've never tried them, but have heard a good bit of favorable reviews. the extravisions are available locally, thus my purchase in haste.
For me, good lighting is important and the factory bulbs are a compramise at best - like the Pirelli tires on the 20" wheels. This is one area that an upgrade is easy, affordable, and effective for safety. I live in a rural area; I feel like I cannot have enough light within the capabilaties of the factory lenses - I think they are relayed at this time Texasguy. It makes the autolamp/courtesy lights possible thru the "body" control unit I presume.
If he is the actor, he may be good at lighting, appearantly he "squints" quite a bit...
SVT2205...I for one would like to hear your opinion. Knowledgable input is why I am here.
Texasguy, I think the Nighthawks will be my next choice. I've never tried them, but have heard a good bit of favorable reviews. the extravisions are available locally, thus my purchase in haste.
For me, good lighting is important and the factory bulbs are a compramise at best - like the Pirelli tires on the 20" wheels. This is one area that an upgrade is easy, affordable, and effective for safety. I live in a rural area; I feel like I cannot have enough light within the capabilaties of the factory lenses - I think they are relayed at this time Texasguy. It makes the autolamp/courtesy lights possible thru the "body" control unit I presume.