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Old Feb 18, 2003 | 06:07 PM
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i was just wondering if anyone has went ahead and put a agr power steering pump on a 91 and up truck.I have an 94 f-250 4x4.The half ton and one tones are probaly pretty close in the setup of pulleys and brackets. I have put a 60 in the front end already and a 393 windsor in down in the garage waiting to be installed.Just want to know if anyone has used this pump.I sure someone has.I just want to hear what the scoop is on the set up and if they were satified with it.
 
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Old Feb 18, 2003 | 10:08 PM
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I installed the AGR on my '87, it should be about the same as your '94. As far as steering power, the AGR pump is awesome compared to my old noisy Ford pump. I have a locker in my Dana 60, and the Ford pump could barely steer it. The AGR pump has a lot more power and hardly makes any noise.

When you install it, go to a salvage yard and get the Saginaw pump, brackets, and pulley from an Econoline van with a 351W. (AGR does not supply the reservoir or the pulley.)

I had a new high-pressure hose made up to fit my truck correctly, and also added a power steering fluid cooler. I have no complaints after some pretty severe 4-wheeling.

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Old Feb 20, 2003 | 02:52 PM
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AGR is a waste of money. Get a stock Sag from a van, bolt it in. Do this to increase pressure if you feel you need to do so:

http://www.off-road.com/~jweed/pwrstr.htm
 
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Old Feb 20, 2003 | 06:21 PM
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why do you say it is a waste of money Honney Did you have a bad expierence with the company or product.I appreciate your honesty and time.
 
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Old Feb 20, 2003 | 09:50 PM
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They cost about double what a decent reman does, and they have virtually no warranty (if you read the fine print). I got one from Advance and it's LIFETIME!!!!!
 
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Old Feb 23, 2003 | 10:04 AM
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I bought a reman Ford pump for my B2 from AGR. The plastic reservoir was porous causing a slow difficult to locate leak. I ended up sealing it myself to avoid replacing it. Other than that the pump works good. I also replaced the steering box in my 89 F150 with one of thier reman ones and after about 30,000 miles it seems to be developing play that cannot be adjusted out. This is why I replaced my stock box. Any ideas where to get a good box that has no play in it??? These trucks handle really bad if there is any play in the box.
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Old Feb 23, 2003 | 11:11 AM
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Advance, NAPA, O'Reilly, Parts Plus, CarQuest. Avoid the zone & discount.
 
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Old Feb 23, 2003 | 06:22 PM
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Steve I learned years ago to stay away from AZ rebuilt parts. Got tired of redoing jobs. I will probably go to Napa for a rebuilt box when it gets worse. I don't understand why these boxes develop play in my F150. It seems mine develop play at the nut, worm, ball friction area since I cannot adjust it out with the adjuster screw. Why is this??? My B2 has the same box with almost 170,000 miles and absolutely no play.
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Old Feb 24, 2003 | 10:40 PM
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Originally posted by mjb1962
Steve I learned years ago to stay away from AZ rebuilt parts. Got tired of redoing jobs. I will probably go to Napa for a rebuilt box when it gets worse. I don't understand why these boxes develop play in my F150. It seems mine develop play at the nut, worm, ball friction area since I cannot adjust it out with the adjuster screw. Why is this??? My B2 has the same box with almost 170,000 miles and absolutely no play.
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Besides actual mechanical wear, the control valve portion of the box is sealed with plastic rings. If they are leaking, you can move the wheel quite a bit before it does anything. It feels like play, but it's really just the hydraulic portion of the box leaking internally.

What are you using for power steering fluid?

Just a thought...

art k.
 
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Old Feb 25, 2003 | 06:39 PM
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Valvoline synthetic as recommended by AGR. Your diagnostics may be correct as I have thought the same. How do you fix it? There seems to be a "deadband" in the steering until you turn the wheel more than "x" number of degrees.
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Old Feb 26, 2003 | 09:02 AM
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Valvoline synthetic as recommended by AGR. Your diagnostics may be correct as I have thought the same. How do you fix it? There seems to be a "deadband" in the steering until you turn the wheel more than "x" number of degrees.
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You'd have to rebuild the "spool" - the control valve. I don't think they normally rebuild those on a "reman" box, at least the cheapos don't.

You need special tools to get the plastic rings over the spool. Something I wouldn't tackle in my backyard. I've gotten rebuild kits from Ford before complete with those plastic rings, but again, you need special tools to get them on the spool without wrecking them. Maybe Ford (or Snapon or someone) sells them cheap.

Higher pressure might help, but probably blow out the seals again real soon. There are plenty of stop-leak kinda products for power steering, I wonder if any of those really get the plastic rings to seal again...

ak
 
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