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Old Aug 25, 2010 | 09:53 PM
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Talking Biodiesel

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I'm in the process of getting the new 2011 F-350 Fx4 Crew Cab, 8' bed, dually wheels with the Diesel engine. I was wondering if any body here has run Biodiesel in the engines here? I know that having the truck with dually wheels is suppose to give me more pulling power, how is it with the mileage. They (Ford) says that this years model has more pulling power and better mileage. I would like to hear your view points before I order mine. Thanks.
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Old Aug 25, 2010 | 10:13 PM
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Welcome to the forums!

If i were buying a $50k truck, i would put nothing but ultra low sulfur diesel in it, and i would only go to reputable fuel stations to get it...

Just my $0.02
 
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Old Aug 25, 2010 | 10:52 PM
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the B20 on the side of the new trucks is fords endorsement to run up to 20% biodiesel. that would be "certified" commercial biodiesel. homebrew is only as good or bad as the individuals quality control. if you make your own and you have engine problems you prob will have issues with warranty if ford finds out its not commercial bio
 
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Old Aug 26, 2010 | 09:34 AM
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What these guys said. You really have to do your homework before you start puting bio into your truck. 2007 and up engines dont take kindly to high ratios of bio. They have a regeneration cycle for their exhaust particulate filters, wherein fuel is injected into the cylinders during the exhaust stroke. Since bio has a higher flash-point, it doesnt evaporate off the cylinder walls as readily as diesel does, which can cause bio to infiltrate past the piston rings causing oil dilution. This can cause burnt up bearings, or worse. There are ways around this, but your'll void your warranty.

I love biodiesel, and veggy fuels, but I have to always warn folk that you have to do your own homework, and accept the risks involved.
 
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Old Aug 26, 2010 | 09:40 AM
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Don't run bio unless you have to. There is no energy in it. It also forces you to change your filters more often.

I would change them around 10K anyway.

Only buy your fuel from well traffic stations, namely truck stops where there is alot of fuel moving thru the tanks.

More pulling power with a drw...no. More capacity in the bed of the truck, yes.
 
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Old Aug 26, 2010 | 09:59 AM
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Try not to worry about fuel economy. Just drive gently and wisely.

Senix said: "More pulling power with a drw...no. More capacity in the bed of the truck, yes."

Most would agree a more stable platform too. What do you intend to tow?
 
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Old Aug 26, 2010 | 11:23 AM
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The greater stability of the DRW rear end will allow heavier loads to be pulled safely.
 
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Biodiesel -vs- Low sulfur diesel

Hello everyone,
Thank you everyone for your feedback!
When I do get my new truck I will be running it with the low sulfur diesel fuel. At the present time I have some gas stations that do offer the low sulfur diesel. Maybe as time goes by more stations will be selling it as more trucks will be operating with a diesel engine. I do like the idea of the Biodiesel as a fuel alternative. I was watching the TV the other night and they had a story about ***** Nelson and his Biodiesel that sparked my interest. Since I don't live in Texas or any where near that station and that there are no Biodiesel stations near me I will be running low sulfur diesel fuel. Also I have no plans or time to buy or make any homebrew Biodiesel. The thought of quality control, engine problems and warranty issues would make it a problem I don't need or want. Thanks again, great answers!
Tom
 
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What do you intend to tow?

Originally Posted by bunklash
Try not to worry about fuel economy. Just drive gently and wisely.

Senix said: "More pulling power with a drw...no. More capacity in the bed of the truck, yes."

Most would agree a more stable platform too. What do you intend to tow?
Thank you Bunklash for your feedback. Now to answer your question on what I will be towing. I plan on towing a travel trailer. I also have a special trailer that is a commercial vending trailer use to sell Bar-Be-Cue Smoked meat. the smoker will be on the back end of the trailer with the kitchen area in the front making it one heavy trailer.

I have had lots of trucks in the past but done that were with the dual wheels. So this is all new for me! I like the idea of having pulling heavy loads and having more stability too.

Thanks again!
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Run only ULSD.....not low sulfer.

ULSD=Ultra low sufur diesel.
 
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Here in IL 95% of our stations have only Biodiesel. It is B11 though and the state pushes it on everyone as we are big on E85 as well. As stated change your filters regularly and I always add additive to my fuel.
 
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My truck runs better on the B11, doesn't like ULSD. I run it exclusively, and have no problems, But i have a 7.3L, not a new 6.7, so i digress......
 
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Old Aug 27, 2010 | 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Fishin76
My truck runs better on the B11, doesn't like ULSD. I run it exclusively, and have no problems, But i have a 7.3L, not a new 6.7, so i digress......

Do you see the mileage decrease with it on the 7.3? And it doesn't matter what you have you're pretty much gonna get B11 here...
 
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No, not really, maybe 1mpg. Trade off is that the truck runs quieter and smoother. Seems like the injectors are way louder on ULSD. I can get ULSD at two stations where i live. BP's are all B11.....
 
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No, not really, maybe 1mpg. Trade off is that the truck runs quieter and smoother. Seems like the injectors are way louder on ULSD. I can get ULSD at two stations where i live. BP's are all B11.....
Well I Googled "Biodiesel" for my area and it turns out that there was only one station and thats is about 40 miles away. So it looks like I will be running on the "Ultra Low Sulfur Diesel Fuel". I like the idea of finding a Alternative Motor Fuel such as Biodiesel for cleaner running resulting in modest reductions of harmful hydrocarbon and benzene emissions, as well as reduced carbon dioxide, a greenhouse gas. On the other hand I have heard that running on Ethanol added to Gas it is much harder on the engines, making break downs more common. Is this the same outcome for Biodiesel Fuel as Ethanol Gas ?
Just curuious.
Thanks,
Tom
 
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