Got to "Love" lot's of those slides...Shame on Ford 20K fuel filter change, 10K oil change..

 

they did the latest PCM flash (so long regen message), and told me the air filter was at 50% flow capacity.. (new one on order for 1/2 the ford gouge price)..

nothing else obvious they said.

We'll see.
Sam

 

funny.. some of those(35, 38, 41, 42) talk about 2006 as the future!

Sam

 

Where did you get the air filter for half price?

 

http://www.dieselfiltersonline.com, 50 vs 98..

Sam

 

How did they determine it was 50% blocked? Was the tattle tale gauge sucked in halfway?

 

no clue.. they said the computer showed that the filter was blocked..


I haven't looked at the filter indicator...

Sam

 

the new filter came, and the flow meter gadget on the filter was at 1/2.. put new filter in and reset.. we'll see..
man that filter is huge!..

1st drive after oil, tranny, filter, and latest PCM flash had me at 13.7 for a while.. normally about 12.3 on this particular stretch of road.. then hit a lot of stop & go and ruined the test!!..

Sam

 

I should have some answers to mine in a few weeks. I've been told by a Ford rep that the tailpipe should be clean!

It's going in to the dealer in a few weeks.

 

What's the big deal with soot in the pipe? Mine has it. No power loss no fumes no smoke nothing.
It is a diesel after all. If you want clean exhaust go for a prius or another hybrid. I guess I don't understand the problem.
Even if the oven isn't collecting all the soot um so? What's it hurting?

 

The issue is....if it is only a cracked DPF, no big deal unless you have an inspection program.

But..if there are other concerns then it is a big deal. Black pipes could be a early warning of an overfueling condition. Leaking injectors or a problem with the EGR.

So don't just dismiss it, investigate a little before you just ignore.

 

Here is the way I look at it,

2008 model diesels and newer are not suppose to have black smoke coming from the exhaust or soot build up on the exhaust. Ford even has marketing brochures that state this. If your truck does then something is not working properly. You may not have any negative effects at this point, but at some point you probably will. If it turns out repairs are needed and you are out of warranty then it comes out of your pocket.

Here is my story:
I started see a smalll amount of black smoke a few months ago, along with some soot build up. It was more noticeable just before a regen, once the regen finished it was very little if at all. I had my truck in for a oil change and reported what I had noticed. They said the test they ran showed no problems. Over the next few months the black smoke was getting worse, very noticeable every time I accelerated. It did not matter if it was before or after a regen. I have had no other side effects, plenty of power, no effects while towing my 30ft TT. Most people I showed or asked about this said "Its a diesel, your suppose to have black smoke coming out of the exhaust. Dont worry about it."

The more I read on this forum and other web sites the more I felt that something was wrong so I took it back to the dealership, after they ran some tests again they had to replace 2 injectors and the DPF. I would assume the total bill was over $1500 based on each injector being $300+ for the part and 3-4 hours of labor to replace each one, not sure about cost for the DPF.

Trust me, I would accept black smoke and soot build up if they would remove the DPF, but we all know that wont happen. I also feel by reporting anything that does not seem right allows for my concerns to be documented with Ford. With my last truck I was able to get 2 items fixed outside of warranty because I could document that symptoms I reported before the warranty expired. One of them was a small issues but the other was a bigger problem and would have cost me over $1000 to fix. I was over 15k miles out of warranty. The service manager said even though their diagnostic test did not show anything wrong at the time, the fact that I had reported it allowed him to get the mfg. to cover it under warranty.

 

yep.. documentation wins every time..
I just reported my black pipes as well. they ran some tests, put on the latest flash.. and I don't notice any difference.. 1st tow tomorrow so we'll see under load..

sam

 

I've been logging my regens and other problems. It'll go to the dealer soon. It regens, on average, every 150 miles...

 

tailpipe black...absolutely not. Sort of powder gray..Ok....Black and sooty...no, no, no. It will most likely not throw a code. You need to find a dealer or diesel guy that knows what they are doing... Our dealer took one look at my black tail pipe on our 08 6.4l and ordered a new DPF. We are now powder gray and runs great. That was @ 25K miles ago.