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Old Aug 1, 2010 | 09:19 PM
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Engine doable?

Hello, newbie here. I'm looking for comment from the knowledgeable crowd regarding putting a 72 Pontiac 455 engine into a 1950 Ford F1. Doable? Anyone have experience with this?
I just got the F1 from someone that pulled it out of a field. The Pontiac was freshly rebuilt to put into a Pontiac when the HOA shut me down! Now I'm where I can work on such things and I'm wondering if these two can be combined. I'd just lose money if I tried to unload the 455 and get something more common. Besides, I like the "unusual". What do you think?
 
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Old Aug 1, 2010 | 09:30 PM
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I can't see why you can't do it. I bought the flat six that's in my F-2 from a guy who installed an Olds in his truck.

As long as you can do your own fab work, or know some one that can and will help it shouldn't be too complicated. I would bet there are adapter kits just for this application or can be made to work.

BTW, welcome to the board. You'll find every kind of truck builder here, from strict stock to total Dark Siders.
 
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Old Aug 1, 2010 | 09:39 PM
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Welcome to the site!

Bobbytnm on here put a Cad 500 in his 49, I can't believe the Poncho is much different size-wise.
 
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Old Aug 1, 2010 | 09:50 PM
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Old Aug 2, 2010 | 11:50 AM
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ive got a 4.6 in mine. I had the motor on a stand next to my pontiac 400 for my T/A, and the 4.6 is wider than that 400 block and theres plenty of room front to back for it so i dont see any reason why it wouldnt fit. just gona have to fab up some motor mounts.
 
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Old Aug 2, 2010 | 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by dlb.motorman
Besides, I like the "unusual". What do you think?
Anything is possible, if you have the time, money, fab skills you could put a rocket engine on it if you wanted to. Unfortunately, taking one of these beautiful Fords and putting a non-Ford engine in is becoming anything but "unusual" anymore...
 
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Old Aug 2, 2010 | 06:49 PM
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I have a '59 Pontiac 389 for my 53 f100. While my truck might have a little more space under the hood (?) it might be interesting for you to know that Pontiac blocks from 326ci through 455 ci are the same size, same block casting, just different bores and strokes. So that being said, the pontiac blocks are just slightly larger than the chevrolet 350 block is.

roughly small block chevy L27" H27" W22"
Pontiac L29" H31" W27"

later year 455's had a slightly diff casting, that was a little bit bigger.

Big block chev is a few inches bigger on all the above diamentions but not much larger.

If you let these guys talk you out of that 455, I know someone that would take it off your hands!! *me*
In all seriousness the Pontiac engines are great torque monsters and with the renewed interest in the Pontiac aftermarket recently, its easier than ever to get serious power out of them.
 
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Thanks. I appreciate the feedback. I'd like to use the 455. I suppose the rearend couldn't handle it, so that's another change. dlb
 
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Originally Posted by dlb.motorman
Thanks. I appreciate the feedback. I'd like to use the 455. I suppose the rearend couldn't handle it, so that's another change. dlb
If you still have the stock diff, it's a Dana 41/44 which is plenty tough. The biggest thing that could be an issue is the gear ratio will be a 3.92 or 4.11:1, which will have that big ol' 455 lump twisting pretty high on the freeway.
 
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Old Aug 25, 2010 | 05:59 AM
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The truck was pulled from a field. It used to be a service station truck and has a faded and paint-sanded finish. You can see the "Mobil" insignias on the doors and tailgate. It has old moss growth hardened on the hood.

I know I need to repair the rusted out areas, but I'd like to keep the cool "patina" (albeit a bit extreme). Would it be possible to just seal the whole exterior in a clear sealer?
 
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