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Camera must be broken. 
RL201- it sounds like a nice deal: lifetime warranty in exchange for maintenance you 'should' be doing anyway. You'll be paying about the same either way- it's just that letting the dealer do the work will give you a written, verifiable insurance policy against mechanical break-down. I don't think any other company's 'insurance' would be as easy to make claims against.
RL201- it sounds like a nice deal: lifetime warranty in exchange for maintenance you 'should' be doing anyway. You'll be paying about the same either way- it's just that letting the dealer do the work will give you a written, verifiable insurance policy against mechanical break-down. I don't think any other company's 'insurance' would be as easy to make claims against.
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Amsoil is bait and switch. They have two lines of oil. API certified and the one they make all they longevity claims with. They do all their marketing based on anecdotal information about their longevity oil. Whenever someone raises the topic of API licensing, they trot out their API oil. But the two are not the same. Their API oil is no different than Pennzoil, Mobil or Motorcraft.
So who knows where the Amsoil refinery is? Oh, wait... there is none. They buy all their lubricants from oil companies like ExxonMobile and their additives likely from Chevron Ornite. Amsoil is just a retail packager. A multi level marketing one at that.
So who knows where the Amsoil refinery is? Oh, wait... there is none. They buy all their lubricants from oil companies like ExxonMobile and their additives likely from Chevron Ornite. Amsoil is just a retail packager. A multi level marketing one at that.
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Amsoil is bait and switch. They have two lines of oil. API certified and the one they make all they longevity claims with. They do all their marketing based on anecdotal information about their longevity oil. Whenever someone raises the topic of API licensing, they trot out their API oil. But the two are not the same. Their API oil is no different than Pennzoil, Mobil or Motorcraft.
So who knows where the Amsoil refinery is? Oh, wait... there is none. They buy all their lubricants from oil companies like ExxonMobile and their additives likely from Chevron Ornite. Amsoil is just a retail packager. A multi level marketing one at that.
So who knows where the Amsoil refinery is? Oh, wait... there is none. They buy all their lubricants from oil companies like ExxonMobile and their additives likely from Chevron Ornite. Amsoil is just a retail packager. A multi level marketing one at that.
So, if Amsoil really ain't all that, does that mean that Mobil1 should last 20K miles like Amsoil supposedly does?
I've never used their products, I'm a Mobil1 guy and have been for over 15 years.
I still say, go for the warranty.
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It's up to you to decide if you want to pay $3.85 for Mobile1 at your local Pep Boys or if you want to pay $6-8 to get it out of the trunk on some Amsoil dealer's car.
It's apples and oranges. The 20k oil is Amsoil's unlicensed oil. The reason they can make those claims is because of the ammount of additive and content. But that also excludes it from API licensing. Without API license it doesn't meet the specificatons for new vehicle warranties.
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Wow;
Pretty impressive replies. I personally think that the "lifetime" waranty is the appropriate way to go for me because I usually keep vehicles for 10+ years and there are a lot of components covered by a powertrain warranty that we wouldn't normally consider influenced by such a simple procedure as an oil change or tire rotation and these are the only two listed criteria.
As for me historically not rotating tires (as picked up by one poster) I have yet to find need with careful maint of alignment and pressure and this is my 5th truck.
Sure, I probably am missing out on something but in my current drive conditions I'm not convinced it would be to my advantage.
A moot point though as taking the warranty insists on it.
Thanks all for great input.
Pretty impressive replies. I personally think that the "lifetime" waranty is the appropriate way to go for me because I usually keep vehicles for 10+ years and there are a lot of components covered by a powertrain warranty that we wouldn't normally consider influenced by such a simple procedure as an oil change or tire rotation and these are the only two listed criteria.
As for me historically not rotating tires (as picked up by one poster) I have yet to find need with careful maint of alignment and pressure and this is my 5th truck.
Sure, I probably am missing out on something but in my current drive conditions I'm not convinced it would be to my advantage.
A moot point though as taking the warranty insists on it.
Thanks all for great input.
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No, Mobil1 is API licensed so that puts it in the same class as Amsoil's API licensed oil. Amsoil does not recommend long drain intervals for it's API oil. Only 7,500 at the most and any modern dino oil can do that. You can easily and safely go that distance on Wal-Mart or NAPA oil you pay only $1.50 for. How do I know that? Because it has an API licensing label.
It's up to you to decide if you want to pay $3.85 for Mobile1 at your local Pep Boys or if you want to pay $6-8 to get it out of the trunk on some Amsoil dealer's car.
It's apples and oranges. The 20k oil is Amsoil's unlicensed oil. The reason they can make those claims is because of the ammount of additive and content. But that also excludes it from API licensing. Without API license it doesn't meet the specificatons for new vehicle warranties.
It's up to you to decide if you want to pay $3.85 for Mobile1 at your local Pep Boys or if you want to pay $6-8 to get it out of the trunk on some Amsoil dealer's car.
It's apples and oranges. The 20k oil is Amsoil's unlicensed oil. The reason they can make those claims is because of the ammount of additive and content. But that also excludes it from API licensing. Without API license it doesn't meet the specificatons for new vehicle warranties.
They clearly state that it meets or exceeds API licensing, but no starburst - so it must be snake oil.
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Even Valvoline offers a long engine warranty. I would never pay that kind of money for motor oil. If it isn't available at my local store, I won't buy it.
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Nope... not if you value your warranty. I wasn't aware it didn't have a starburst.
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And these guys put Amsoil snake oil in a Ecoboost to squeeze out maximum mileage... B'tards!
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And these guys put Amsoil snake oil in a Ecoboost to squeeze out maximum mileage... B'tards!
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And these guys put Amsoil snake oil in a Ecoboost to squeeze out maximum mileage... B'tards!
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Funny how no mention of actual improvement vs off the shelf oils is made, but yet you present it as some sort of fact.
I've often wondered if I rebottled my used oil, charged $10 per qt, claimed super ultra delta bravo uber performance and mpg, would it sell, and how many would actually claim such performance?
Ever heard of Slick 50?
Yet another Amsoil dead horse beating thread.
Hundreds of these types of threads in the FTE oil forum.
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Please.....
Funny how no mention of actual improvement vs off the shelf oils is made, but yet you present it as some sort of fact.
I've often wondered if I rebottled my used oil, charged $10 per qt, claimed super ultra delta bravo uber performance and mpg, would it sell, and how many would actually claim such performance?
Ever heard of Slick 50?
Yet another Amsoil dead horse beating thread.
Hundreds of these types of threads in the FTE oil forum.
Funny how no mention of actual improvement vs off the shelf oils is made, but yet you present it as some sort of fact.
I've often wondered if I rebottled my used oil, charged $10 per qt, claimed super ultra delta bravo uber performance and mpg, would it sell, and how many would actually claim such performance?
Ever heard of Slick 50?
Yet another Amsoil dead horse beating thread.
Hundreds of these types of threads in the FTE oil forum.
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I don't use amsoil because of any magical claim. I use it cause its the only 0W20 I can easily buy, and its cheaper than other 5W20s where I live. And when its -40 like today... 0W-20 is a good thing.
When I took my valve covers of my 5.4 with 225,000 miles they were very surprised how clean everything was. No sludge etc. Not a bad thing.
If I could buy Mobil 0W-20 same price and it was available, I would.
When I took my valve covers of my 5.4 with 225,000 miles they were very surprised how clean everything was. No sludge etc. Not a bad thing.
If I could buy Mobil 0W-20 same price and it was available, I would.