Ricatic - do you see an anti-sway bar under your rear? (uhhm that sounds really odd but its not)

 

rdenis

I must apologize for inaccurate information. I was confused. When I was in the process of buying my new truck I actually had selected a different truck. The dealer had it prepped for delivery. It was an XLT model with the camper package. I changed my mind before delivery and went with the Lariat model truck in my signature. I just went out and looked under my truck. No sway bar. I looked at my window sticker. No camper package on the window. Sorry for the confusion and incorrect information.

Sincerely

 

According to my ford order guide, Here's what is in the camper package: Heavy service front springs, Rear stabilizer bar (SRW only), Slide-in camper certification, Rear auxiliary springs (F-250 only).

 

No worries ricatic! I have the Lariat 350 CC too - supposedly with a camper package!

 

rdenis

Does your window sticker say camper package? Mine does not. Do you have the 20" wheels? I know I read a one sheet loading spec and guide from my new truck but I will be darned if I can find it now. Am I losing my mind?

 

Yeah my window sticker says camper package and I have the 18" wheels - I believe you can't buy the camper package with 20's because of the narrower sidewall.

 

One other thing I just noticed - on my Transport Canada certification sticker on the driver side piller, it says "Tru/Cam" for Vehicle Type - of course that could just as easily mean Truck with rear Camera!

 

If you ordered the 2011 Super duty with the camper package or purchased a dealer's vehicle with the camper package, you should have a piece of paper that gives your cargo weight rating and camper center of gravity (in bed) measurement. Mine was in my glove box with my manual.

The cargo weight rating for your truck is based on your GVWR (gross vehicle weight rating) and the options that you have on the truck. If you ordered a lot of options, then the cargo weight rating (slide-in camper) for your truck is less than one with few options. Since the diesel option is heavier, the cargo weight rating is lower for the 6.7 L engine than for the 6.2 L gas engine. The cargo weight rating and center of gravity information for your 2011 Super Duty truck with a camper package comes from this Ford Booklet:

http://www.motorcraftservice.com/vdi...TC_Loading.pdf

You should note that if you're ordering a truck for slide-in camper use that even the tires that you select has an effect on GVWR and cargo weight rating. For instance, with the standard tires, my 2011 F-350 truck has an 11,200 pound GVWR but with the upgraded AT tires (a $125 option), the GVWR increases to 11,400 pounds. This GVWR number is posted on the driver's side door area. In addition to the camper weight listed on the camper certification, you'll also be able to carry the equivalent of 150 lbs per seating position in your truck and not be over weight.

 

Thanks for the post. I printed it out because I have misplaced the one that came with my truck

 

I read those charts........"Thanks for the link by the way"

A Ford Truck salesperson is clueless when it comes to this rating.

But here is the confusion........even a very light hard side truck camper weighs around 3000 dry...now thats a light one.......then add 500 pounds of gear and your at 3500 pounds......

now read the charts for a 2011 F350 Crew Cab Diesel Short Box......

AND>>>>>>it looks like noting would be legal to load...wow

I am seeing stuff in the 2000 pound range.....can somebody tell me what I am reading if thats correct........because if so...

No hard side camper will be light enough........0

only pop up styles.......scratching my head on this one

 

For a F-350 Crew Cab Diesel Short Box (with 4x4 and A/T tires on page 104), the cargo rating ranges from 2200 lbs to 3050 lbs depending on options that you order with the truck. More options, less cargo rating. And you're right, many camper dry weights, without options like AC, exceed 2,500 to 3,000 lbs. When you add water, propane and gear to a 3,000 lb dry weight camper, you're quickly at 3,500 to 4,000 lbs as you suggest.

There's several things to consider here. First, the weight rating does not include the passenger weight. Ford uses 150 lbs per seating position. So a crew cab with a front 40/20/40 bench seat has 6 positions and thus has 900 lbs of passenger capacity. If your cargo weight rating from the chart is 3,000 lbs, then your total weight of camper, gear, and passengers cannot exceed 3,900 lbs. Fewer passengers and you can carry more gear and camper. I'm operating right near the max but if you follow the truck camper forums you'll see that most of the SRW trucks are overweight, especially those with 3/4 ton trucks. So they buy air bags, beef up tires and suspension and hit the road anyway.

Those that are really worried about being overweight with their truck campers buy DRW trucks rather than SRWs because with the dual wheels, your cargo ratings soar. I chose to go with a 1 ton, shorter cab (super cab) and a shorter bed on my SRW truck to increase my cargo weight rating for my camper. And that's keeping me within the weight limits. Going with 4x2, gas engine, and regular cab will also increase the weight of the camper that you can load, but I'd never own a truck with that configuration.

Here's some forums that discuss this topic with regularity:

http://www.rv.net/forum/index.cfm/fuseaction/listings/forum/27.cfm

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Looks like I cannot use the truck I want to purchase......a crew cab for my family and the short box with the diesel.

I currently have dual wheel Chevy 3500 long bed. I used it for my construction business and my hard side camper.

I have semi retired and use the truck for commuting in traffic..

So I wanted to buy the King Ranch and have something a little different for a change.

looks like the F450 and F350 this year are about the same rating? Not sure what that was about.

I know the dually is a much better setup......very stable with a truck camper.......but since I only use the truck camper about 6 times a year it makes no sense to own the long bed dual fender truck anymore......

truck campers are a much tougher deal than most people know.I think about 75% of them are overloaded.

By the charts I could not put much of a camper on that spec truck.

I wanted the lance 861 with a dry weight of around 3080 pounds which means I cant use that truck and be in spec....figures

But thanks for the links...big decisions to make

 

My camper is a 2010 Lance 861 and I have a 2011 F-350 Supercab 6.7 L 4x4 SRW with the short box. And I'm right at max weight once fully loaded (according to the truck scales). This is a great setup with the short wheelbase for getting around and the slide out gives you a lot of room on a short bed truck. The 6.7 L engine with the tranny in the tow haul mode is perfect for hauling this camper and no other manufacturer can even come close to safely and legally hauling this camper without DRW.

Here's my setup:

Ford Truck Enthusiasts Forums - ColdH2O's Album: 2011 F-350 Truck - Picture

With a crew cab you'll be just a bit overweight but I'd would not let that worry you too much since most trucks with campers on the road are outside of these specs. When loaded my truck does not go down in the rear much at all and I don't need airbags to level this truck at all. I think you would be fine with the added weight of the crew cab because I'm not using all the truck's capacity right now.

The official dry weight for the 861 is 3070 lbs. Depending on your camper options, wet weight can reach 3,900 to 4,000 lbs (2 batteries, 2 full 20 lb propane tanks, and 250 lbs of fresh water, and gear).

 

Since I want the ALMOST the same set up...what does the Ford setup say you can haul with your truck?

I dont think the f450 will do it either......

I like a level truck and if its level I feel safe.

Looks like the 20 inch wheels wont work as you cant get the camper package with those tires.

Did you get the camper package?

 

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