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Old Jul 30, 2010 | 10:46 PM
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I am fairly certain that dropping the pan will only remove 8-9 quarts - unless you have an aftermarket pan.

Do you know how many quarts you put back in?
 
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Old Jul 30, 2010 | 10:50 PM
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I think the extra was because it was down to just touching the dip stick prior to the change.
For sure I only filled to top of 'cold' mark.
 
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Old Jul 30, 2010 | 10:53 PM
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That should not affect the re-fill quantity (at least I don't see how it could).
 
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Old Jul 31, 2010 | 08:11 AM
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Yes only 9 quarts for a flush... IMO the drip stick is almost impossible to read I'm still not 100% sure I'm reading mine correctly... LOL

You probably had to much fluid. I would wait and see if it does it again. You shouldn't have problems pulling in that heat.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2010 | 08:37 AM
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I wouldn't wait. I would verify for sure that it's not overfilled, which is what it sounds like.
I had trouble sleepin last nite after watching that video
 
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Old Jul 31, 2010 | 04:58 PM
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and all the fluid in the pan (about 12 quarts).
That's why it overheated and puked. If you put 12 quarts in after only draining the pan it was overfilled by at least two, probably three quarts.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2010 | 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark Kovalsky
That's why it overheated and puked. If you put 12 quarts in after only draining the pan it was overfilled by at least two, probably three quarts.
Or 4 quarts?
 
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Old Jul 31, 2010 | 05:29 PM
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I wouldn't wait. I would verify for sure that it's not overfilled, which is what it sounds like.

I surely agree ......... thats why I posted the video ........
 
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Old Jul 31, 2010 | 08:56 PM
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I may be off on how many quarts I used but I filled it to the top of the cold mark.
I did it slowly because it didn't want to overfill it.
If anything that would cause an under-fill as as soon as you run the truck it starts to heat up and move up the dipstick.
Anyway I'lll ask the shop about what they think.
It's running great so I don't think I damaged it.....
Is the cooling fan just triggered by the coolant temp or does the tranny temp also trigger it?
The fan seems to cool the coolant fast when it kicks on full speed.
Anyone else overheat in similar situations???
 
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Old Jul 31, 2010 | 09:01 PM
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I think it has to be running to measure... cold or hot.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2010 | 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Gental Ben 2
I may be off on how many quarts I used but I filled it to the top of the cold mark.
I did it slowly because it didn't want to overfill it.
If anything that would cause an under-fill as as soon as you run the truck it starts to heat up and move up the dipstick.
Anyway I'lll ask the shop about what they think.
It's running great so I don't think I damaged it.....
Is the cooling fan just triggered by the coolant temp or does the tranny temp also trigger it?
The fan seems to cool the coolant fast when it kicks on full speed.
Anyone else overheat in similar situations???
Engine temperature is not the only parameter that the PCM monitors to determine cooling fan operation. This is the reason that you will see some variation in engine temperature as it correlates to fan operation. The operation/description of the FSS (Fan Speed Sensor) from the PC/ED manual has a fairly good explanation as to how the system "thinks". This is not your traditional engine hits temp X and the fan clutch locks up. The fan speed sensor is a Hall-Effect sensor integral to the vistronic drive fan (VDF). The powertrain control module (PCM) will monitor sensor inputs and control the VDF speed based upon engine coolant temperature (ECT), transmission fluid temperature (TFT) and intake air temperature (IAT) requirements. When an increase in fan speed for vehicle cooling is requested, the PCM will monitor the FSS signal and output the required pulse width modulated (PWM) signal to a fluid port valve within the VDF. At least one person has seen the factory gauge go from normal to the "red" almost instantly. It happened at 248 degrees F.

A high temp will throw it int a sort of "limp" mode.

Also ........

The "Factory" transmission temp gauge, it is a glorified "idiot" light as its response is severely dampened. The panel gage will show the temp as fully warmed up at 50 *F. Between 100-220F the needle will remain in the same position on the gauge. At 230F it will move up slightly to the middle of the normal range. At 250F it will move to Yellow. The gage moves to red at 280. This is supported on page 36 of the OBDII Theory and Operations manual. The tow/haul light will flash at 275.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2010 | 11:34 PM
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Thanks Bismic, Tried to rep you again. I guess I gotta wait a little longer
 
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Old Aug 1, 2010 | 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by ehgeeray
I think it has to be running to measure... cold or hot.
Yup- topped up as it's idling; ad fluid and wait 5 minutes before rechecking (so that it can fully drain down that 5" long fill tube). The trouble is it 'warms' as it idles so it is creeping up the dipstick.
To get a true 'cold' reading it has to be shut off and let cool fully before getting a true 'cold'.

Anyone have 'puking' from being overfilled by just a 1/2 quart????
I guess that's my main question as it is running 100% great now and I can't see any kinks in the cooler lines & the huge cooler is clear.
 
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Old Aug 1, 2010 | 04:26 PM
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There is no way to get an accurate level using the cold mark. Ford should never have put a cold mark on the dipstick, it only causes problems. The ONLY way to accurately set the fluid level is on a warmed up transmission.
 
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Old Aug 1, 2010 | 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark Kovalsky
There is no way to get an accurate level using the cold mark. Ford should never have put a cold mark on the dipstick, it only causes problems. The ONLY way to accurately set the fluid level is on a warmed up transmission.

When the tranny was hot, hot from towing and it had already puked it was still 1/2 way up the 'warm' mark.
Hard to say but it must have purged 1/2-1 quart because it made it all the way under the truck on the passenger side to the rear wheel. Of course it could have gone on the road....the only way we ever noticed it was it hit the exhaust and started smoking!

So 'full cold' could actually be overfilled when warmed up & overfilled for extreme duty of towing in hot weather?
 
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