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Old 07-31-2010, 03:58 AM
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CM, now that I would like to see in person, I bet it looks great!
 
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Thanks ISOGrifo...I'd love to say mine is pretty and all that but its far from it...but the CM is one of the biggest non sentimental reasons I still have it...but sentiment trumps all...I just wish I could have a look see as to how many of the various paint codes were made or interior trim codes...but regardless, I think what I got is definately unique....Now if i can just all the goodies together to redo it properly...slow and steady wins the race though...
FWIW...the interior trim code is an oddball as well...but not as odd as the paint...


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what's the interior trim code?
 
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What does second coat of paint refer to? Does it mean the truck was tu-toned? If so, there's nothing rare about a tu-toned truck...unless the code is CM.

C = Pure White & M = Wimbledon White. Why someone would want a tu-toned white truck is beyond me.

If second coat of paint refers to more than one coat of acrylic enamel over the primer, that would not be an option, would only be available as a DSO.

I've never heard of any such thing, but with FoMoCo, one never knows.

Tricky: The factory spotlight isn't rare, these were supplied to Ford by Unity. 1961/66 F100/1100, 1965/69 N/NT500/1000 & 1967/69 F/T800/1000 is the same.

Both right and left sides were available and, both can still be bought...today...from Unity!
truck was one color and the second coat was "more than one coat of acrylic enamel over the primer". if i remember correctly he felt it would keep it from rusting. got the impression it was done at the factory but no way to prove that one.

checked out the unity spotlight web site. one of those is on my list of future "accessories".

"C = Pure White & M = Wimbledon White. Why someone would want a tu-toned white truck is beyond me." to me it depends on how different the whites are in shade, tone, hue etc. could be an attractive combination, if C and M are the same color however uh not much you can do with that. i wonder how many artsy types worried about the hue and contrast of their new f250 back in 1961-66.
 
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not sure if it is this way, but I would've had it MC, have the pure white where wimbledon typically is on a two tone, and wimbledon be the base color.
 
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I took Pictures of this FAKE Ranger at The '09 F-100 Western Nationals. I feel sorry for people who believe these kind of people who make stuff up. (ie: Liers, Con-artists, etc...)
















He Got Custom Plate's that say "64RANGR" ?!?!
Sorry, I didn't grab any pictures of the thrown together interior, his windows were up...
(ignore my crappy photography skills, I was 14 )
I looked through my '010 F-100 Western Nationals Pictures, it appears he wasn't there...
I, prefer factory restorations myself. I think Ford did good at what they were doin', they had been doin' it for a while, 'n what they did with their trucks (For The Most Part) worked.
 
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truck was one color and the second coat was "more than one coat of acrylic enamel over the primer". if i remember correctly he felt it would keep it from rusting.

got the impression it was done at the factory but no way to prove that one.
If painted that way at the factory, the truck would have been a Domestic Special Order...would have had a 6 digit DSO code.
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C = Pure White & M = Wimbledon White. Why someone would want a tu-toned white truck is beyond me.
to me it depends on how different the whites are in shade, tone, hue etc. could be an attractive combination, if C and M are the same color they are not.

however uh not much you can do with that. i wonder how many artsy types worried about the hue and contrast of their new f250 back in 1961-66.
C = Pure White...aka refridgerator white.

M = Wimbledon White is an off white aka creamy white. In fact, Studebaker used this exact same color (and formula) on their cars/trucks and called it Cream.

When Don (cs65) first told me his truck was COLOR code CM (tu-tone white), I told him it was prolly a mistake at the dealership.

When the truck was ordered, the sales manager prolly checked the wrong box on the order sheet.

M (Wimbledon White) was very common, so that color was most likely correct. What the other color was, we'll never know for sure, but I doubt is was supposed to be Pure White.

When Don posts the BODY code (which lists the color/type of seat material), whatever color it is...I would assume that would have been the contrasting color that was...supposed to be ordered.
 
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I feel sorry for people who believe these kind of people who make stuff up. (ie: Liers, Con-artists, etc...).
That seems harsh. Why can't we applaud someone's creativity and vision while at the same time admitting that we might prefer a different route?

Was this guy selling the '64 for a premium price based on an assertion that it was as original from the factory? If not, give it a rest.

I am a fan of sympathetic restorations myself but I've learned to stop slamming people who have infinitely greater skills and resources than I do, even if their tastes are different.
 
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That seems harsh. Why can't we applaud someone's creativity and vision while at the same time admitting that we might prefer a different route?

Was this guy selling the '64 for a premium price based on an assertion that it was as original from the factory? If not, give it a rest.

I am a fan of sympathetic restorations myself but I've learned to stop slamming people who have infinitely greater skills and resources than I do, even if their tastes are different.
The point is...the owner CLAIMS it is a 1964 Ranger, his license plate says so and he shows it as such.

It is not a Ranger...it's a FAKE. Which means the owner is perpetrating a FRAUD! Taking this into consideration, would you applaud this owners creativity and vision?

I wouldn't and if the owner does sell it as such, what will happen to him when the new owner finds out it's a FAKE? He may find himself being sued for fraud.

FAKES are common in the hobby today, there are more FAKE Shelby Cobra's, GT-350's and GT-500's than real ones.
 
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FAKES are common in the hobby today, there are more FAKE Shelby Cobra's, GT-350's and GT-500's than real ones.
I'd be willin' to bet that there are MORE Fake Shelby Cobra's, GT-350 'n GT-500s than were originally produced.
 
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I'd be willin' to bet that there are MORE Fake Shelby Cobra's, GT-350 'n GT-500s than were originally produced.
That's exactly what I just said, kiddo.

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There are more FAKE Shelby Cobra's, GT-350's and GT-500's than real ones.
 
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy View Post
the owner is perpetrating a FRAUD
How's that different than when a man colors his graying beard?

Fraud is a word used easily these days but the true definition is deceit and trickery *specifically* with the intent to induce another person to part with something of value.

So if this guy is showing his truck at festival and getting lots of thumbs-ups, you may be accurate in saying it is a fake, relative to what was available from the factory at that time, but you are going too far in accusing him of fraud.

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the owner CLAIMS it is a 1964 Ranger, his license plate says so
Huh? My vanity plate may say RICHGUY but does that make it so? How about SKYDVR when I've never jumped out of a plane? Since when did the DMV become the arbiterof what's true in the world?
 
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How's that different than when a man colors his graying beard?

Fraud is a word used easily these days but the true definition is deceit and trickery *specifically* with the intent to induce another person to part with something of value.

So if this guy is showing his truck at festival and getting lots of thumbs-ups, you may be accurate in saying it is a fake, relative to what was available from the factory at that time, but you are going too far in accusing him of fraud.

Huh? My vanity plate may say RICHGUY but does that make it so? How about SKYDVR when I've never jumped out of a plane? Since when did the DMV become the arbiterof what's true in the world?
My corporate atty BIL, who is sitting across the room from me as I type, says it's fraud...when someone perpetrates something that isn't true.

And since the owner collects something of value (trophies at shows), he is tricking people into believing the truck is a real Ranger.

Since the truck has fake Ranger badges on it, clueless people viewing the trucks vanity plates would assume it's a Ranger.

I had a '63 Galaxie Convertible once, had vanity plates on it that said RAGTYME. Did that refer to the car since rag is a nickname for a convertible, or did it refer to the fact I play ragtime on the piano?

Both.
 
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Out of all the clones I would either want a gt500 super snake or a t-bolt, I seen an original factory t-bolt but at 30k it was a little out of my price range.
 
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My trim code is AB....you tell me which its supposed to be...that code was used on 4 different variations of setups between E and F series...LOL....the only way one would get the correct material is if, A, the original seat was in there, or B, one had a good memory and remembered the pattern...of which I do...funny what ya remember as a 4 and 5 year old boy....


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