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I'm just about done the resto-mod to my crewcab, and the doors are not from my truck, and the body shop did not remove the vin tag for replacement on the new doors. If I send in my VIN to somebody, will they re-stamp it like the old Ford ones? Do you know who that somebody is?
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From: Stanley, VA
I'm just about done the resto-mod to my crewcab, and the doors are not from my truck, and the body shop did not remove the vin tag for replacement on the new doors. If I send in my VIN to somebody, will they re-stamp it like the old Ford ones? Do you know who that somebody is?
The special rivets don't need any special tools to install.
Also, you don't need to send him the old plate but it's a good idea to e-mail a picture of it to avoid any mistakes. This can all be done on his website.
www.martiauto.com
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Mike...I have a question, how does that VIN get verified? Say I have a 79 250 super cab 4x4, and I request the VIN plate to read X36 instead of X26...boom I just added a few grand to my truck...unless someone looks at the frame VIN or knows the difference between a D44 and D60. I mean hell, you could even change the engine code and you could have a 250 with a 'factory' 460 in it. As a matter of fact, you could pretty much manufacture any VIN you wanted to, as long as you knew what codes went where. There might be some red tape to cross, but in NC...you could technically get the rig you just 'created' to even be a legally recognized vehicle.
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Mike...I have a question, how does that VIN get verified? Say I have a 79 250 super cab 4x4, and I request the VIN plate to read X36 instead of X26...boom I just added a few grand to my truck...unless someone looks at the frame VIN or knows the difference between a D44 and D60. I mean hell, you could even change the engine code and you could have a 250 with a 'factory' 460 in it. As a matter of fact, you could pretty much manufacture any VIN you wanted to, as long as you knew what codes went where. There might be some red tape to cross, but in NC...you could technically get the rig you just 'created' to even be a legally recognized vehicle.
Now if you were so handy to print your own title then you could make the rarest truck never produced.
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Actually Marti has possesion of all the old Ford records, he simply looks up that VIN. If it doesn't exist in his files, neither does your new VIN plate.
He can't say you are the legal owner of the vehicle but that the VIN exists.
On rare Fords (Boss Mustangs, etc) you have to submit a copy of the vehicle registration in your name before a new VIN plate will be stamped.
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Here is what Marti's handiwork looks like, it is dead on accurate. Also available is the paper certification sticker that goes on the driver's door jamb.
The special rivets don't need any special tools to install.
Also, you don't need to send him the old plate but it's a good idea to e-mail a picture of it to avoid any mistakes. This can all be done on his website.
www.martiauto.com
The special rivets don't need any special tools to install.
Also, you don't need to send him the old plate but it's a good idea to e-mail a picture of it to avoid any mistakes. This can all be done on his website.
www.martiauto.com
What about the "body, color, trim" info?
Nice to know you can get your data reproduced.
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Marti has all of the old records, that can all be looked up. You can also order a "Marti Report" for your truck that will contain all of that info plus how your truck was optioned when it was new, when it was built, what dealer sold it, etc. plus a lot of statistical data.
Pretty interesting read.
My factory cert. sticker didn't have any of that info on it so I left those lines blank. However, the same info is on the VIN tag and that is stamped into the replacement tag.
Pretty interesting read.
My factory cert. sticker didn't have any of that info on it so I left those lines blank. However, the same info is on the VIN tag and that is stamped into the replacement tag.
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It's easy enough to 'lose' a title and say the vehicle was bought in another state. I know getting a new title in NC is relatively easy. Hell, last time I did, one of the officers just came out and looked at the VIN plate. And like that, you have VIN plate and a title that match.
Back to Mike though, I am correct that those Ford spec sheets come from Ford but the info come from Marti, correct? Well as I said in the Ford spec thread going around here, that I currently have a truck, and had another one previously, and know of 5-6 others that are all 77's before Y20,001, that Ford says doesn't exist. The only logical response I got was the paper work was either lost or destroyed when some of the paper work got wet in the 90's. So in a round about way, doesn't that mean that Marti would NOT have the info on my truck since the info comes from them anyway? I actually sent in pics of my WP, VIN on the door, VIN on the frame and my original build sheet, and yet...I'm told my truck doesn't exist. Does that mean Ford just dropped the ball, or Marti isn't as involved in the Ford spec sheets as I thought?
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It's easy enough to 'lose' a title and say the vehicle was bought in another state. I know getting a new title in NC is relatively easy. Hell, last time I did, one of the officers just came out and looked at the VIN plate. And like that, you have VIN plate and a title that match.
When I bought my F-250 I sent of to the state of Wisconsin an application to get all title history. For a fee they sent me every title the truck ever had on it. The only thing that was blacked out on the titles were the owners name so I could not contact them.
Now lets say you walk or mail in for a lost title and use a phony VIN number that does not show up in any computer system don't you think a red flag would come up?
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Very true...guess I didn't think that one through all the way. I guess it also depends on how thorough the DMV is gonna be that day too.