Howdy Curtis, I remember seeing your Orange truck at DI while they were on 1960...

Mine not only dumps a load while driving, it also does it while sitting...

As I said, I watched a movie (Salt, very good movie btw) came back out and found a disturbingly large puddle of oil. So it doesn't take long...

I checked the lines and they're as seated as it's gonna get...they aren't leaking. Once I got everything together, I spayed it all down with Brake Cleaner to remove the oil residue that was on everything. After a lengthy test drive, I looked very closely at the HPO lines at the pump and not a drip...

The leak seems to be coming from the front of the HPOP between the gasket and engine; from there it balloons into something else, concealing the evidence and starting point with oil...

I certainly hope David can tell me what's going on...

 

I think Bob was at the TS outlaw races this weekend up in Kentucky.....

 

Well, I never had an orange truck....



Sounds like you are on the right track then. And David is good peeps. I'm sure he can find the leak.

See if you can take a peek at Snow White while you are there

 

And the award for Best Guess goes to Brandon Drummonds!

After a long week away on business and an even longer day at work, I got up this morning a decided to try and isolate the leak again. Per Bob Riley's instructions, I went to wal-mart, got some white rags, stuffed and wrapped the areas known to leak, and went for a drive. When I came back, I found the rags were sprinkled with oil, but none of them (not the HPOP, Y-pipe, or HPO lines) were convincingly soaked... While the truck idled I looked over the engine with my spotlight and found this:

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While it isn't conclusive that the HPO resevoir is the culprit and acted alone, it explains everything so far...

When the truck was under load and at speed, it created enough pressure for it to literally soak the engine in oil and conceal itself.

As another user suggested, the rushing air from the front of the vehicle was strong enough to spread the oil accross the engine with the added pressure that was produced while the truck was under load. Since I didn't drive too far or too fast, it couldn't conceal itself again.

To that end, I called the parts department at the local dealership and they tell me it's a whopping $190+tax for the entire resevoir. Lesson learned...

The good news is that it should be relatively simple and not an all day affair...

I'll post back with the results...

 

i just might have the same problem now that i think about...i just replaced my HPOP and i seem to a small leak also. it doesn't seem to be alot as the volume in the valley hasn't grown immensley as it used to. however i recently did the foil delete and noticed some oil around that pipe. i was wondering if the pipe was leaking a lil bit of oil from the ccv or something, but now that i think of it it's possible i have the same leak in the same spot, which is almost perfectly lined up with the ic pipe, and the wind is spraying it lightly onto that pipe..i do recall seeing some oil collected on the top of that bolt...guess i better investigate this some more. ( not trying to high jack this thread) thanks for the heads up and extra info. opened my eyes up. thanks

 

That's actually good news. When you mentioned the gasket not being lined up right when you put it back together, that can cause it to crack. I was worried that the crack was below the reservoir in the front cover. That would have been a much worse deal.

 

Chris, believe me when I tell you I was worried about the same thing! Thankfully, that wasn't the case...

I went to my local dealer (Planet Ford) who spent most of the morning finding and getting the resevoir I so desperately needed and left very distraught...

The parts guy at the store did everything he could and really went out of his way for me, but it turns out that the resevoir comes in TWO pieces and not just one like he thought. The bottom piece cost $190 and the top piece (get this) cost $267! Total: $494

The parts guy called around and found one other dealership that had the top part: Tommie Vaughn Ford. If any of you ever need a part, never, ever, EVER go to Tommie Vaughn Ford. It was 2:30 and they closed at 3:00; I called and practically begged the guy there for the part, but he said: "We're not part of the dealership and there's nothing we can do to get you that part. The doors close at 3:00" and hung up...

To that end, I left empty handed and called Dave at DI Performance hoping they would still be open. Dave answered and said he had a few laying around and would gladly sell me one for $200! I raced over to DI picked up the part and actually got to talk and catch up with Dave. I profusely thanked him, went home, installed the part, went for a drive, and NO LEAKS!

After a good long drive, my truck is back to it's normal self and I feel so much better! Thank you all for your support in all this!

*EDIT* theres still a strangely rough idle, but its something I can live with...for now.

 

Awesome! Glad Dave got you taken care of. The "quality" parts sales at the dealership definitely helps Dave's sales!

 

To the OP:

I saw you post in a thread I started that you were experiencing prolonged starts like me... we both have MORE than adequate fuel pressure and plenty of juice at the starter. We both were thinking oil and you just got your new HPOP... does it help at all?

 

Oh hell yeah!

The truck starts easier and takes considerably less pedal to get and keep moving. After taking it easy for a day or so, I mashed it coming out of church and was pressed well into my seat for the first time in years.

The only thing that gets me is that since replacing the pump (and resevoir since I broke it ) with an Adrenaline, it sometimes has a rough/inconsistent idle if you're stopped at a light or parked; even when fully warmed up. May still be some air in the system and lines I guess...

Other than that, my truck runs considerably better than it did new. The injectors are quieter overall and LOVE the new pump. Since yours is an early '99, you have single shot injectors that will love a good aftermarket 17* pump. Whether you go with a Termy modded pump or the Adrenaline, you and your truck will be happy...

 

I'd have to go with a Modded Terminator... not enough funds to go ALL out.

About the injectors: I'm almost positive that the single shots ended with the OBS trucks (except for the '97 to '98 CA trucks I think... they had split shots as well). The Super-Duties were when the split shots began. However, my e99 does have a 15* pump so even stepping up to a stock 17* would help some.

But does anyone know what pressure a 15*, stock 17*, and modded 17* put out? Also, did you test yours, OP? I would like to test the pressure on mine because I'd be willing to bet that it's getting tired. I haven't seen the 16-17mpg's I got last year... I've been getting 13-14mpg's. I've been a little heavier on the pedal and have been doing a bit more town/city driving than I did last year, but I didn't think it'd be significant enough to cause it to drop like that. I need to test my back pressure sensor and see if it's plugged up (I replaced the tube because it was cracked/split). Do I have to go to the dealer to find that stuff out?

 

If you can help it, NEVER go to the dealer for a simple diagnostic or anything else. Local shops do the same thing a dealer can do for much less money. If you were in Houston, I'd recommend DI Performance; they've always taken good care of me and recently saved my behind again. Check around and see if you can find an independent Diesel shop and they should make this easier to swallow. Or OR....you can invest in an Auto Enginuity! It does 90% of the things the dealer NGS can do, but is considerably cheaper: Riffraff Diesel: Total Ford Enhanced Bundle

A Termy modded 17* pump will serve you well, Stewart_H and a few other have one and love it to death. I hadn't seen the 18-19 mpgs I used to get and was getting 14-15 mpg even with my DP-Tuner! Hopefully this pump will fix that unless I just have weak injectors...

I had a local shop test the HPOP with an NGS and it was holding a wimpy 1700psi at WOT with 80 econo. It seems to hold the pressure better now, but I have a feeling I need to replace my EBP tube since it may be clogged.

 

What are the pressure ratings for the 15* and stock and modded 17* pumps?

 

Not sure at all, but the modded 17* degree pumps do extremely well: https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/9...le-graphs.html

 

It's not a pressure thing. Both will make 3000+psi. The 17 deg pump will do it while putting out more VOLUME of oil where the 15 deg pump will fall on its face sooner... The mod'ed 17 deg pump will hold enough volume for you to max out your stock injectors easily.