Oil Changes/Warranty
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Oil Changes/Warranty
All of my life except for a few times I have always changed the oil in my vehicles. One of the few times that I had the oil changed at a shop the mechanic trainee stripped out the oil drain plug. My dilema is I just bought a 2010 F-150 and I do not trust someone else changing the oil and my truck being used as a training aid. If I change my own oil and do all the service required at the proper intervals and keep this information recorded in a log, does this void the Ford warranty?
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I know where you're coming from on this. What I think is funny is that the salesman at the dealership told me to change the oil in my truck every 3,000 miles. He says "regardless of what the book says, change the oil in that truck every 3,000 miles, no more." I was baffled. In the day and age where extended drain intervals are becoming common place, this guy is telling me not to exceed 3,000 miles.
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Right! I can't see going 7500 miles on an OC. No sir, I might stretch it to 3500 but no way am I going the recommended 7500. Brad, I'm sure you are enjoyng the price difference between the 5.4 and the 6.0 as I am! I got two- 5qt jugs of Quaker State 5-20 and a filter for $25. Much easier to swallow than 4 gal Rotella Syn and filter for around $100. Wallyworld didn't have the Motorcraft Syn blend so I got the QS and will (probably) go full syn in the next change or 2 after everything seats. Unless someone thinks this is NOT a wise move?
EDIT: Also, the recommended 7 qts put me just a tick above the Full line. Whats up with that?
EDIT: Also, the recommended 7 qts put me just a tick above the Full line. Whats up with that?
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I know where you're coming from on this. What I think is funny is that the salesman at the dealership told me to change the oil in my truck every 3,000 miles. He says "regardless of what the book says, change the oil in that truck every 3,000 miles, no more." I was baffled. In the day and age where extended drain intervals are becoming common place, this guy is telling me not to exceed 3,000 miles.
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Right! I can't see going 7500 miles on an OC. No sir, I might stretch it to 3500 but no way am I going the recommended 7500. Brad, I'm sure you are enjoyng the price difference between the 5.4 and the 6.0 as I am! I got two- 5qt jugs of Quaker State 5-20 and a filter for $25. Much easier to swallow than 4 gal Rotella Syn and filter for around $100. Wallyworld didn't have the Motorcraft Syn blend so I got the QS and will (probably) go full syn in the next change or 2 after everything seats. Unless someone thinks this is NOT a wise move?
EDIT: Also, the recommended 7 qts put me just a tick above the Full line. Whats up with that?
EDIT: Also, the recommended 7 qts put me just a tick above the Full line. Whats up with that?
That is using Motorcraft Synthetic blend.
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Several owners (on another board) have had UOAs done at 7500 miles and (for their truck and their driving style) they could have easily gone 10k. MC 5w20 syn blend and MC filter.
I'm sticking to 5000-6000 miles with MC 5w20 syn blend and MC filter.
Change as much as you want (every morning); spend as much as you want (Amsoil every morning), but bottom line is (unless you meet the severe service guidelines) no longer than 7500 with an oil that meets Ford's spec with a filter that meets Ford's spec.
I'm sticking to 5000-6000 miles with MC 5w20 syn blend and MC filter.
Change as much as you want (every morning); spend as much as you want (Amsoil every morning), but bottom line is (unless you meet the severe service guidelines) no longer than 7500 with an oil that meets Ford's spec with a filter that meets Ford's spec.
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I'm pretty certain that Ford has collected an insurmountable amount of data justifying a 7500 mile oil change. Realistically, motorcraft semi-syn is probably good for more.
I just bought a 2010 Focus for my youngest daughter. The maintenance guide says 7500 mile oil changes and 150,000 mile transmission fluid / filter change.
I will do as I've always done on my vehicles and change it over to Mobil 1 full syn and change the oil every 10K.
I just bought a 2010 Focus for my youngest daughter. The maintenance guide says 7500 mile oil changes and 150,000 mile transmission fluid / filter change.
I will do as I've always done on my vehicles and change it over to Mobil 1 full syn and change the oil every 10K.
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The only time you may run into warranty issues with oil changes would be if you run something like a 20w50 and a Fram filter. Stay with 5w20 and to be safe, a Motorcraft filter. As luck would have it Motorcraft filters are a quality filter made by Wix, and for the money you can't beat them.
Also, have you ever known a salesman to really know anything about engines? Like this guy knows more then Ford engineers? With the tight tolerances of modern engines and the quality of modern oils there is no reason to change your oil at anything less than a 5000 OCI.
Also, have you ever known a salesman to really know anything about engines? Like this guy knows more then Ford engineers? With the tight tolerances of modern engines and the quality of modern oils there is no reason to change your oil at anything less than a 5000 OCI.
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I would think he was planting that every 3K notion in hopes you'll visit their service department every 3K. Makes sense to me. How many vehicle owners spend the time to read their maintenance manual? I'm betting most don't do anything more then what someone suggests or what they've always done. Regardless of neeed.
I'm not sure "slappy" is the right word for certain salesfolks. But I'm sure even our own BigKen has experienced sales associates (co-workers) who had little clue of the product they were (key word) trying to sell. Heck, the kind gentleman I bought my then new 1993 SVT Cobra was thrilled to tell me all about the 5.0 V-8 Big Block the car had. I chuckled and asked, how could a motor known as a "small block Ford" be a big block. His response was, it's big compared to the 4 and 6 cylinder blocks. While he didn't know is you know what from his elbow. I still bought the car (still have it 17 years later)....
But to the OP, use the proper oil/filter. Document the date/mileage when you change it. And don't worry.
I'm not sure "slappy" is the right word for certain salesfolks. But I'm sure even our own BigKen has experienced sales associates (co-workers) who had little clue of the product they were (key word) trying to sell. Heck, the kind gentleman I bought my then new 1993 SVT Cobra was thrilled to tell me all about the 5.0 V-8 Big Block the car had. I chuckled and asked, how could a motor known as a "small block Ford" be a big block. His response was, it's big compared to the 4 and 6 cylinder blocks. While he didn't know is you know what from his elbow. I still bought the car (still have it 17 years later)....
But to the OP, use the proper oil/filter. Document the date/mileage when you change it. And don't worry.
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I would think he was planting that every 3K notion in hopes you'll visit their service department every 3K. Makes sense to me. How many vehicle owners spend the time to read their maintenance manual? I'm betting most don't do anything more then what someone suggests or what they've always done. Regardless of neeed.
I'm not sure "slappy" is the right word for certain salesfolks. But I'm sure even our own BigKen has experienced sales associates (co-workers) who had little clue of the product they were (key word) trying to sell. Heck, the kind gentleman I bought my then new 1993 SVT Cobra was thrilled to tell me all about the 5.0 V-8 Big Block the car had. I chuckled and asked, how could a motor known as a "small block Ford" be a big block. His response was, it's big compared to the 4 and 6 cylinder blocks. While he didn't know is you know what from his elbow. I still bought the car (still have it 17 years later)....
But to the OP, use the proper oil/filter. Document the date/mileage when you change it. And don't worry.
I'm not sure "slappy" is the right word for certain salesfolks. But I'm sure even our own BigKen has experienced sales associates (co-workers) who had little clue of the product they were (key word) trying to sell. Heck, the kind gentleman I bought my then new 1993 SVT Cobra was thrilled to tell me all about the 5.0 V-8 Big Block the car had. I chuckled and asked, how could a motor known as a "small block Ford" be a big block. His response was, it's big compared to the 4 and 6 cylinder blocks. While he didn't know is you know what from his elbow. I still bought the car (still have it 17 years later)....
But to the OP, use the proper oil/filter. Document the date/mileage when you change it. And don't worry.
When I bought my 97 F 350 I asked the salesman what "gear was in the truck", his response was, "Its an automatic". I couldn't help laugh at that one.
In all fairness the woman I bought my current truck from didn't try to act like she new anything technical about the truck. Which I appreciated.
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Well, when I bought my new focus, I was bombarded with the 3K oil change, 60K tranny flush, undercoat, sealants and all that crap. Nothing but BS spewed from this woman's mouth.
I asked her how long she'd been stuck in the 70's.
I opened the manual and shut her up about everything she said. I was actually offended at the idea that she fear mongers everyone to make a buck.
I did speak to dealership management about this. I'm sure there was plenty of back slapping when I left.
I asked her how long she'd been stuck in the 70's.
I opened the manual and shut her up about everything she said. I was actually offended at the idea that she fear mongers everyone to make a buck.
I did speak to dealership management about this. I'm sure there was plenty of back slapping when I left.