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Hmmm... very interesting stuff. If UOA proves 7500 is good to go who am I to argue? More beer money woohoo!
Plus 5k is so EASY to remember. For us old guys that a lot this is an important consideration.
7.5k would require a calculator (or I remove my shoes and socks to count) every other change. This is not going to happen!
FWIW, every other oil change I also rotate the tires. Every 4th change I change the air filter (yes, this is 10k sooner than I need to per the maintenance guide).
But as I said above:
PLEASE DO WHAT MAKES YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE AND HAPPY. IT'S YOUR TRUCK, YOUR MONEY, AND YOUR CHOICE!
Well, when I bought my new focus, I was bombarded with the 3K oil change, 60K tranny flush, undercoat, sealants and all that crap. Nothing but BS spewed from this woman's mouth.
I asked her how long she'd been stuck in the 70's.
I opened the manual and shut her up about everything she said. I was actually offended at the idea that she fear mongers everyone to make a buck.
I did speak to dealership management about this. I'm sure there was plenty of back slapping when I left.
It's all part of the deal. went through the same thing buying my FX2. I do remember the service manager really pushing the 3000 mile change due to our hot and dry conditions for vehicles I purchased in the past.
But here it is 13 years after my first modular motor, (4.6 in a 97 F150)
and now that Ford has gone to 7500 miles, the dealer is pushing 5000.
My company did an oil study several years ago, and found out that the oil is just fine all the way up to 5000 miles. And all of our vehicles go to 150000 or more.
I'll get my first oil change at 5000 miles because it's free. And the General Manager has assured me it will be done in 30 minutes. After that, it's to be changed at 7500.
But if I tow a heavy trailer in the heat of the summer, I'll shorten that distance between oil changes.
Great thread. lots of very good common sense thoughts. I agree if one can do their own oil changes, it is probably better to do so. IMO, it saves a lot of time and one really knows that the job is getting done properly. I love the comments that we could start a thread on stupid salesperson comments/suggestion and also the 5K oil change because as we get older, every 5K is easier to figure out. You guys are too much...thanks.
Owners manual obviously states 7,500 miles. Service Department at preferred dealership obviously endorses that when they have questioned me on my 5,000 mile oil changes. And yet they still put a sticker on my windshield with a 3,000 mile interval on it.
Personally, I like 5,000 miles. It is easy to remember, and I have seen evidence in torn-down motors & oil analysis reports that some FTE members have posted that both support how well the newer motor oils can handle that interval, or longer.
Along the line of this thread, the message appeared on my dashboard to change the oil. This is at 3500 miles.
If I change the oil myself, will that reset the computer and remove the oil change message?
I too, have had a problem with the dealership changing the oil in my last F-150. The drain plug was stripped and the dealer had to replace the oil pan. Wasted time while they did the repairs.
I'm looking to buy a 2010 Ford F-150 4x4 Super Crew, but don't have one yet. My wife has a Honda Ridgeline (I know sacrilegious on this site) that has some sort of sensor that monitors the cleanliness of the oil and indicates when the oil starts to get dirty. It shows the % of the oil life left. I think that the 'indicated' oil changes by this computer work out to be between 5,000 and 7,500 miles. Does the Ford have any type of sensor in their system computer?
Last edited by Mr Bill TX; Jul 15, 2010 at 12:10 PM.
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I'm looking to buy a 2010 Ford F-150 4x4 Super Crew, but don't have one yet. My wife has a Honda Ridgeline (I know sacrilegious on this site) that has some sort of sensor that monitors the cleanliness of the oil and indicates when the oil starts to get dirty. It shows the % of the oil life left. I think that the 'indicated' oil changes by this computer work out to be between 5,000 and 7,500 miles. Does the Ford have any type of sensor in their system computer?
It is based on miles alone, as is you wifes Honda. Engines can't do oil analysis quite yet.
Actually some Ford 2010s and 2011s have a more intelligent system that base engine life on running hours, RPMs, temperature, load, etc. Not sure if the F150's OLM is one of the newer versions or not.
If it's not, it's based on miles (7500) OR time (6 months), whichever occurs first. The 2010s do have the ability to set the time to 12 months.
If it's a major deal to you, then download an owner's manual and read all about it.
Change your own oil, if you have the facilities and enjoy the experience. It's like finishing a detail and stepping back. Satisfaction. I take it step further. I like syn, I run it to 5ooo tops. I could probably go more but my choice. I do replace the filter @ 3Gs and I placed a 90 lb magnet @ the base of the filter. When the old oil drains I can still see thru it. But then again, I'm a 4DNUT.
I'm looking to buy a 2010 Ford F-150 4x4 Super Crew, but don't have one yet. My wife has a Honda Ridgeline (I know sacrilegious on this site) that has some sort of sensor that monitors the cleanliness of the oil and indicates when the oil starts to get dirty. It shows the % of the oil life left. I think that the 'indicated' oil changes by this computer work out to be between 5,000 and 7,500 miles. Does the Ford have any type of sensor in their system computer?
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