5r110 transmission
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Mountain Pass
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5r110 transmission
I took my truck down to the dealership for a chirping noise when the air conditioner was on.
Well they wanted to start with a new serpentine belt for $300
!! I told them to forget it if they were going to throw parts at it !! I got a motorcraft belt ($49.95) and done it myself. Turned out to be the tensioner. Done it myself. This is what really puzzled me I wanted them to at least go ahead with a transmission flush and new filters.
The service righter told me they did not want to chance doing that since I did not know the history of the truck and that it would probably mess the transmission up !! I have never heard of such nonsense. My truck has a good oasis report just the normal oil cooler, egr cooler,head gaskets,new turbo all done at 98,000 miles no other problems since new.
Is he right about this the 5r110 seems to be bullit proof.
Well they wanted to start with a new serpentine belt for $300 !! I told them to forget it if they were going to throw parts at it !! I got a motorcraft belt ($49.95) and done it myself. Turned out to be the tensioner. Done it myself. This is what really puzzled me I wanted them to at least go ahead with a transmission flush and new filters. The service righter told me they did not want to chance doing that since I did not know the history of the truck and that it would probably mess the transmission up !! I have never heard of such nonsense. My truck has a good oasis report just the normal oil cooler, egr cooler,head gaskets,new turbo all done at 98,000 miles no other problems since new. Is he right about this the 5r110 seems to be bullit proof.
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From: Hendersonville, NC
Well i have heard that if it has never ben flushed before it can make it worse! ..
I think it has something to do with all the particles built up in the fluid working as friction modifiers BUT I MAY BE WRONG!
I think it has something to do with all the particles built up in the fluid working as friction modifiers BUT I MAY BE WRONG!
Fleet Owner
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Welcome to FTE (even though this isn't your first post here).
Just an FYI - we get a TON of help from dealership mechanics here. It is highly valued and appreciated. It is derogatory to use the term "stealership". I certainly understand that some dealerships may not be up to the expected standards of service and pricing, but lumping them all together in that category is not the way to go .....
That being said, some folks say you would be better off just dropping the pan and changing the fluid. I would say that if you do that, then drive it awhile, then do it again 2 more times, you should be in good shape and it is cheaper than a flush. Personally, though I do not see that a flush would be all that bad at your mileage.
The recommended maintenance intervals are 30k, so it can get to be a pain every other year or so, but it is highly recommended. These transmissions are good when treated well!!
Just an FYI - we get a TON of help from dealership mechanics here. It is highly valued and appreciated. It is derogatory to use the term "stealership". I certainly understand that some dealerships may not be up to the expected standards of service and pricing, but lumping them all together in that category is not the way to go .....
That being said, some folks say you would be better off just dropping the pan and changing the fluid. I would say that if you do that, then drive it awhile, then do it again 2 more times, you should be in good shape and it is cheaper than a flush. Personally, though I do not see that a flush would be all that bad at your mileage.
The recommended maintenance intervals are 30k, so it can get to be a pain every other year or so, but it is highly recommended. These transmissions are good when treated well!!
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From: Stuttgart, Ar
Your service writer is full of caca. These transmissions love fresh fluid as much as the injectors love fresh engine oil. By NOT changing/flushing the fluid at the recommended intervals you are inviting trouble. If you don't want to spend the money on the flush then drop the pan on the first time just for a look. The screen (it's NOT a filter) in the pan is designed to be changed only in the event of catastrophic failure. The auxillary "toilet paper roll) filter at the passenger front of the truck is what does the fluid filtration and should be changed. It takes about 8 quarts to drop the pan and look. I change 8 quarts (removing the pan drain plug) run a few hundred miles and change 8 more. I can instantly tell a difference in transmission performance. I also have an inline spin-on filter from suncoast that I change every 10K along with the toilet paper roll.
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I just had mine done at the dealer. i specifically wanted Ford to do it because I've read in these or other Ford forums that there is a thermostat that opens once the fluid reaches 160 or 170 degrees F, so in order to get a somewhat full and complete flush, it needs to be at full operating temperature. The advice of the service writer is absolutely ridiculous, IMHO. You aren't that far gone!! I just don't believe that leaving it could possibly be better than flushin it.
ALSO, I installed a Mag Hy-tac deep tranny pan at the same time. I think it's one of the best investments I've made. My tanny temp barely moves on the steepest pulls. All the other stuff I've done...i wonder if it was necessary or helped that much.
ALSO, I installed a Mag Hy-tac deep tranny pan at the same time. I think it's one of the best investments I've made. My tanny temp barely moves on the steepest pulls. All the other stuff I've done...i wonder if it was necessary or helped that much.
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From: N. Fort Worth, tx
I have seen more then one trans fail right after a flush. Most of the time the customer come in and ask for a flush/drain and fill hoping it will cure an issue. 99% of the time it wont.
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I have 128k miles on my truck and had the tranny flushed every 40k miles with no problems at all.
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Mountain Pass
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Thanks for the info guys sorry for the rub on dealerships. I turned wrenches at one 25 years ago. I know diesels cost more but $300 for a serpentine belt threw me out the window. The fluid looks and smells new and it runs fine. I'm just particular about maintenance. I guess I can see the service writers caution if the maintenance records are unknown. I'll just follow the regular intervals since it seems like the truck has been taken care of.
Frmr Ford Trans Engr
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From: SE Florida
That problem was only in 2004 and only with the 5R55S transmission used in the Explorer and Lincoln LS. It did not affect the TorqShift. The TorqShift uses different solenoids and a different fluid.
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From: N. Fort Worth, tx
you have to be kidding. I dont get that type of work. presold maintace goes to the lube rack kids.
I really only see my turck "leaks oil" , my truck "wont start" and my truck " runs poorly" type stuff.
I really only see my turck "leaks oil" , my truck "wont start" and my truck " runs poorly" type stuff.
Cargo Master
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From: AB/BC
LOL- So it probally does take them two hours to change.