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Old Jul 7, 2010 | 06:52 PM
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Question 2011 Brake Issues

HEY GUYS,

Hope I can get some help here. Just purchased my 2011 F250 FX4 2 weeks ago and have almost 3000 miles on it. All of the mile have been mostly long distance highway miles back and forth from Baton Rouge to Houston. I notice a slight pull to the right during braking so I took it in. Come to find out the brakes overheated and melted the caliper boot ober the brake piston causing the pad to slick. Both front calipers were melted a little, rotors had black rings from over heating, and pads were glazed. Rear rotors had black rings, and pads were glazed. I have NOT pulled anything nor had anything heavy other than mulch in the back of the truck. The technician told me it was from "aggressive driving" and heavy braking. Guys Im telling you, I have never had an issue with any of my vehicles. i.e... my last F150 FX4 I pulled a trailer with no brakes, and the tires and brakes lasted for 45K miles.

Please help here. I still love my new truck but just want to find the real reason as to what is wrong. Thanks!!
 
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Old Jul 7, 2010 | 07:30 PM
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I will be watching this thread, I just ordered my F250. All the new stuff on these trucks is scary it seems the truck can apply the brakes on its own like for trailer sway control. Are they going to fix this under warranty? Good luck hopefully they will get it figured out for you.
 
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Old Jul 7, 2010 | 07:47 PM
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most likely it is from sticking slide pins on the calipers. So make sure they are lubed up.

I assume you are going to be starting with fresh everything...I think I would go home, pull the pins and make sure they have some lube.
 
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Yes. They said they would fix it under warranty "this time".
 
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so grease them pins and drive it. Put your hand on the hubs sometimes to see if you can detect any sticking.
 
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Old Jul 7, 2010 | 09:31 PM
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the tech checked the lube on the pins and mentioned that their was plenty of lube in them.., and saw no signs of sticking. im so confused as to how this could have happened.
 
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Old Jul 7, 2010 | 10:57 PM
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I'd keep a close eye out for smoke and the smell of roasting brakes. After you drive it some (after they fix it) put your hands on the wheels and see if they are blazing hot.

For warranty purposes, I would keep a log of wheel temps (if you have access to an infrared thermometer) and your driving habits, so that you show them that you're not a knuckle-dragging idiot that is trying to melt down brakes at Ford's expense.

If this happens several times until it gets fixed for good, you will not want to pay for a full brake system replacement on that truck!
 
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Old Jul 8, 2010 | 06:14 AM
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Yes. They said they would fix it under warranty "this time".
First off, that statement alone would make me never go back there again. This dealer may not stand behind and advocate for you when you need them most. Are these trucks built for work or not? Even if you are tough on a vehicle, these new trucks are too new for them to make assumptions / accusations like that.

I've never been impressed with Ford's OE brake parts, their feel and their longevity.
 
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Originally Posted by tseekins
First off, that statement alone would make me never go back there again. This dealer may not stand behind and advocate for you when you need them most. Are these trucks built for work or not? Even if you are tough on a vehicle, these new trucks are too new for them to make assumptions / accusations like that.

I've never been impressed with Ford's OE brake parts, their feel and their longevity.
I agree with this. I'd ask to talk with the service manager there and let him know that you're not pleased with the tech's uneducated diagnosis of your driving. To be fair, brakes are something that no manufacturer wants to admit an issue with and they don't like to warrant things like rotors as you really can't tell if someone has been dragging 12K around behind them without trailer brakes. It doesn't sound like that is the situation in this case.

I bought a non-contact temperature probe when I got my F250 mainly due to so many people replacing calipers due to stuck pins, etc. Ever so often, like during a long trip or when towing and just running down a long hill I take it out and shoot all the calipers, hubs and rotors to see temps. I'm looking for variation. I found my left front caliper about 90 degrees hotter than the right once and was able to correct the stuck piston before it caused any damage. Cheap insurance. I also use it on my RV tires also to see if one is getting hot when towing long distances.

 
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I agree with this. I'd ask to talk with the service manager there and let him know that you're not pleased with the tech's uneducated diagnosis of your driving. To be fair, brakes are something that no manufacturer wants to admit an issue with and they don't like to warrant things like rotors as you really can't tell if someone has been dragging 12K around behind them without trailer brakes. It doesn't sound like that is the situation in this case.

I bought a non-contact temperature probe when I got my F250 mainly due to so many people replacing calipers due to stuck pins, etc. Ever so often, like during a long trip or when towing and just running down a long hill I take it out and shoot all the calipers, hubs and rotors to see temps. I'm looking for variation. I found my left front caliper about 90 degrees hotter than the right once and was able to correct the stuck piston before it caused any damage. Cheap insurance. I also use it on my RV tires also to see if one is getting hot when towing long distances.


You know, not to get off topic but I'd bet this little gem could measure how much you lose from your house in the winter time.
 
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You know, not to get off topic but I'd bet this little gem could measure how much you lose from your house in the winter time.
You can use it to measure hot spots, but it's time consuming as the area if covers is very small. It shoots a laser point out and that's the area it is measuring. Ask your local fire department if they have an IR body finder...much easier to tell what you want to know.
 
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Originally Posted by Mobilecal
HEY GUYS,

Hope I can get some help here. Just purchased my 2011 F250 FX4 2 weeks ago and have almost 3000 miles on it. All of the mile have been mostly long distance highway miles back and forth from Baton Rouge to Houston. I notice a slight pull to the right during braking so I took it in. Come to find out the brakes overheated and melted the caliper boot ober the brake piston causing the pad to slick. Both front calipers were melted a little, rotors had black rings from over heating, and pads were glazed. Rear rotors had black rings, and pads were glazed. I have NOT pulled anything nor had anything heavy other than mulch in the back of the truck. The technician told me it was from "aggressive driving" and heavy braking. Guys Im telling you, I have never had an issue with any of my vehicles. i.e... my last F150 FX4 I pulled a trailer with no brakes, and the tires and brakes lasted for 45K miles.

Please help here. I still love my new truck but just want to find the real reason as to what is wrong. Thanks!!
Did they check the master cylinder? How about the brake pedal linkage? All four corners having issues sounds like a problem further up in the braking system. Just my $0.02
 
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