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Old Jun 24, 2010 | 09:47 PM
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Tranny ?

Ok guys this is a diff one, if in overdrive from a dead stop truck will not go but if I shift it into d1 or d2 goes perfect and then after rolling shift to overdrive it works great down shifting and up shifting but when I come to a stop I have to start over. No codes no flashing od light pulled pan and has clean fluid no metal at all. I am thinking the shift position sensor may be bad but need somebody with more brain power then I have to make sure.

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Old Jun 24, 2010 | 10:17 PM
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did you check the shifter linkage under the dash?
 
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Old Jun 24, 2010 | 11:37 PM
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Yes that was the first thing I checked
 
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Old Jun 24, 2010 | 11:38 PM
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Like I said it shifted and ran great once moving but to start I had to have it out of d and into d2 or d1 then shift to d
 
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Old Jun 25, 2010 | 01:07 AM
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I am going to take a shot in the dark, but if its not the shift position sensor, then perhaps the module or connections to the module is where its having problems? Thats an interesting one! I am not an automatic guru by any stretch!
 
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Old Jun 25, 2010 | 05:58 PM
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Check for water in the MLPS or sometimes called the TRS you need to check the connection for water intrusion and air blow the pins then place a little dielectric grease around the outter edge of the seal not allowing it to go up into the contact points or pins.

If that doesnt thake care of it the MLPS may need to be replaced - but that is just a guess at this point. Try cleaning and reconnecting it and see if there is a difference.
 
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Old Jun 25, 2010 | 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by DRRXR
Check for water in the MLPS or sometimes called the TRS you need to check the connection for water intrusion and air blow the pins then place a little dielectric grease around the outter edge of the seal not allowing it to go up into the contact points or pins.

If that doesnt thake care of it the MLPS may need to be replaced - but that is just a guess at this point. Try cleaning and reconnecting it and see if there is a difference.
Ok guys what is the MLPS and the TRS?
 
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Old Jun 25, 2010 | 06:18 PM
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Transmision range sensor located on the side of the tranny same as the MLPS



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Old Jun 25, 2010 | 09:30 PM
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It's not ANYTHING electrical. No sensor can cause this.

The overdrive one way clutch has failed. When the shifter is in 1 or 2 the coast clutch is engaged and takes the load that the one way clutch is supposed to take. The trans is going to have to come out and get rebuilt to fix this.
 
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Old Jun 26, 2010 | 05:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Mark Kovalsky
It's not ANYTHING electrical. No sensor can cause this.

The overdrive one way clutch has failed. When the shifter is in 1 or 2 the coast clutch is engaged and takes the load that the one way clutch is supposed to take. The trans is going to have to come out and get rebuilt to fix this.
I had thought about that Mark but was not sure if the sensor would contribute or not. Glad you popped in to post. I did not want to led him in that far.

So Mark you dont think its a solenoid valve issue?

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Old Jun 26, 2010 | 07:10 AM
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How could a solenoid cause that? I know how the transmission works and there is no solenoid that disengages the overdrive one way clutch. It's a mechanical device that allows rotation in one direction and holds in the other direction. When they fail they allow rotation in both directions.

Ever ride a bicycle that doesn't have foot brakes? Ever pedal backwards? That's a one way clutch allowing rotation in that direction. When you pedal forward it doesn't allow rotation, it holds, so the rear wheel rotates with the one way clutch. No solenoids involved.
 
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Old Jun 26, 2010 | 09:46 AM
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How could a solenoid cause that? I know how the transmission works and there is no solenoid that disengages the overdrive one way clutch. It's a mechanical device that allows rotation in one direction and holds in the other direction. When they fail they allow rotation in both directions.

Ever ride a bicycle that doesn't have foot brakes? Ever pedal backwards? That's a one way clutch allowing rotation in that direction. When you pedal forward it doesn't allow rotation, it holds, so the rear wheel rotates with the one way clutch. No solenoids involved.
I did not mean to imply that a soleniod operates the the overdrive clutch I was wondering if any of the solenoids valves could cause a simular condition. Your the one that knows more about the tranny than I; so please do not ask me empirical questions i.e. "How could a solenoid cause that?" a simple complete answer would have been more appropriate.
 
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Old Jun 26, 2010 | 11:37 AM
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Thanks for the info
95 250 ex cab 241xxx completely stock auto hubs rebuilt front and rear end with said tranny problem for $3500 think I can get it for 3000
He had some bad fuel or something cause I drained it and put in fresh and now it runs fine almost smelled like gas in the fuel. should I run or is that a problem.
 
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Old Jun 26, 2010 | 05:14 PM
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I did not mean to imply that a soleniod operates the the overdrive clutch
A solenoid does operate the overdrive clutch. The overdrive one way clutch is operated by relative motion of the two parts.

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so please do not ask me empirical questions i.e. "How could a solenoid cause that?" a simple complete answer would have been more appropriate.
Maybe. But I already said nothing electrical could do this, and you asked if a solenoid could do this. Solenoids are electrical.
 
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Old Jun 26, 2010 | 11:38 PM
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Thanks for the info
95 250 ex cab 241xxx completely stock auto hubs rebuilt front and rear end with said tranny problem for $3500 think I can get it for 3000
He had some bad fuel or something cause I drained it and put in fresh and now it runs fine almost smelled like gas in the fuel. should I run or is that a problem.
As long as the concertration of gas in the fuel was not too high itll be ok. We used to mix gas in deisel in the winter time in reefer trailers on semis to work as an anti gel. And at CAT IIRC they use to say up to 40% gas in the mix was acceptable but border line. If your unsure drain the tanks and fill em with diesel, and run it about 10 minutes on each tank and that sure throroughly flush the lines and whatever gas was in em should either be burned or recirculated to the tanks where it will mix and dilute in the mix. then drain your fuel filter housing and change your filter.
 
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