Removed my dpf
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You know maybe there is another way. Over on another thread there is discussion about an over/under drive from gear vendor. seems to me that would make the truck more like the 2011s, they went to a 6 speed automatic and use only 373 and above diffs. I'm trying to look into it but the first hurdle was that the cost was $2900, second hurdle was that on the web site they didn't list an application for a 430 diff, but I'm thinking there has to be one. I can't see where Ford would be upset with using that, but ya never know. And of course you would have to keep the truck a looooooonnnnnggg time to get your money back at that price. Just an idea.
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So because it's a 6.4, the motor will blow? You would think someone who is a posting 'Guru' like yourself, would have something a little more informative to add to this convo than what some random troll might say from a chevy/dodge forum.
Either way thanks for your input, it was extremely helpful.
Also I have 30K miles on my truck in one year tuned running a 275hp tune and it has been flawless.
Either way thanks for your input, it was extremely helpful.
Also I have 30K miles on my truck in one year tuned running a 275hp tune and it has been flawless.
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So because it's a 6.4, the motor will blow? You would think someone who is a posting 'Guru' like yourself, would have something a little more informative to add to this convo than what some random troll might say from a chevy/dodge forum.
Either way thanks for your input, it was extremely helpful.
Also I have 30K miles on my truck in one year tuned running a 275hp tune and it has been flawless.
Either way thanks for your input, it was extremely helpful.
Also I have 30K miles on my truck in one year tuned running a 275hp tune and it has been flawless.
nope im not a troll from a dodge or chevy forum. im a ford mechanic that deals with 35k 50k mile engine failures every day. im just tryin to give yal the truth. a dealer can flag your vin and you not even know it. when ford warranty or esp prior approval looks at it... automatically denied. i dont agree with emissions bull **** either but at the rate these 6.4s are dropping i wouldnt do anything to void my warranty. hope you have good luck out of your truck
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$15,000 engine replacement should have been more clear.
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6.4 Engine Failures
BigSteve1969,
Can you tell us what you are seeing out of the 6.4 - good and bad? Also, as for the 6.4 engine failures, can you tell us what fails and what the root cause of failure is?
What preventative maintenance or mods would you recommend to enhance the 6.4 from any perspective?
As for Ford flagging a VIN can you share any info you have on why and how Ford reached the conclusion that a warranty is voided?
Thanks...
Can you tell us what you are seeing out of the 6.4 - good and bad? Also, as for the 6.4 engine failures, can you tell us what fails and what the root cause of failure is?
What preventative maintenance or mods would you recommend to enhance the 6.4 from any perspective?
As for Ford flagging a VIN can you share any info you have on why and how Ford reached the conclusion that a warranty is voided?
Thanks...
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nope im not a troll from a dodge or chevy forum. im a ford mechanic that deals with 35k 50k mile engine failures every day. im just tryin to give yal the truth. a dealer can flag your vin and you not even know it. when ford warranty or esp prior approval looks at it... automatically denied. i dont agree with emissions bull **** either but at the rate these 6.4s are dropping i wouldnt do anything to void my warranty. hope you have good luck out of your truck
It really is amazing that you guys see so many engine failures. I have 30K miles on mine without a single issue. I am tuned, and I take on that responsibility if I have an issue... I would never try to trick a dealership by lying to them.
So how would you compare the 6.0 to the 6.4? Everyone I know with a 6.0 have had major problems including myself. I also know many people with the 6.4 and not one of them have a single issue with their trucks. What do you feel are the weak points, and what are the culprits behind the engine failures?
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BigSteve1969,
Can you tell us what you are seeing out of the 6.4 - good and bad? Also, as for the 6.4 engine failures, can you tell us what fails and what the root cause of failure is?
What preventative maintenance or mods would you recommend to enhance the 6.4 from any perspective?
As for Ford flagging a VIN can you share any info you have on why and how Ford reached the conclusion that a warranty is voided?
Thanks...
Can you tell us what you are seeing out of the 6.4 - good and bad? Also, as for the 6.4 engine failures, can you tell us what fails and what the root cause of failure is?
What preventative maintenance or mods would you recommend to enhance the 6.4 from any perspective?
As for Ford flagging a VIN can you share any info you have on why and how Ford reached the conclusion that a warranty is voided?
Thanks...
keep your svc up to date and keep all reciepts. dont run offroad fuel cause ford warr. does call for fuel samples. usually if the truck needs a new engine ford sends out a inspector to take pictures of everything.
ford just declines or they dont thats up to them they look at previous svc records and things found while worked on.
main thing is if you wanna stay under warranty have everything done doccumented. if you dont care bout warranty, make sure the gains are worth the cost both now and later.
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Sorry for jumpin on ya. I tend to get a little worked up late at night haha. I can get defensive of the forum if I feel like people are not trying to be helpful, and I feel they are degrading the value of it. Sorry for the confusion.
It really is amazing that you guys see so many engine failures. I have 30K miles on mine without a single issue. I am tuned, and I take on that responsibility if I have an issue... I would never try to trick a dealership by lying to them.
So how would you compare the 6.0 to the 6.4? Everyone I know with a 6.0 have had major problems including myself. I also know many people with the 6.4 and not one of them have a single issue with their trucks. What do you feel are the weak points, and what are the culprits behind the engine failures?
It really is amazing that you guys see so many engine failures. I have 30K miles on mine without a single issue. I am tuned, and I take on that responsibility if I have an issue... I would never try to trick a dealership by lying to them.
So how would you compare the 6.0 to the 6.4? Everyone I know with a 6.0 have had major problems including myself. I also know many people with the 6.4 and not one of them have a single issue with their trucks. What do you feel are the weak points, and what are the culprits behind the engine failures?
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alright i hardly see the good i mean by the time it gets to us its got trouble so when i talk about engine troubles its something i see week after week. i think most issues stem from the high pressure fuel system. it ether goes out at the pump and tears threw the whole fuel system. or the injector drools and burns the pistons up.
keep your svc up to date and keep all reciepts. dont run offroad fuel cause ford warr. does call for fuel samples. usually if the truck needs a new engine ford sends out a inspector to take pictures of everything.
ford just declines or they dont thats up to them they look at previous svc records and things found while worked on.
main thing is if you wanna stay under warranty have everything done doccumented. if you dont care bout warranty, make sure the gains are worth the cost both now and later.
keep your svc up to date and keep all reciepts. dont run offroad fuel cause ford warr. does call for fuel samples. usually if the truck needs a new engine ford sends out a inspector to take pictures of everything.
ford just declines or they dont thats up to them they look at previous svc records and things found while worked on.
main thing is if you wanna stay under warranty have everything done doccumented. if you dont care bout warranty, make sure the gains are worth the cost both now and later.
Big Steve:
I've been reading your posts and I don't seem to make the connection,
so maybe you can help me understand something.
The DPF's purpose is to deal with exhaust emissions, right? So how would
the removal of the DPF impact the Engine and/or Fuel System? Even if the
DPF voids your warranty, its removal should not be the cause of a
catastrophic engine failure, right?
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See these YouTube videos of the 6.4 and the problems from DPF,etc.
YouTube - 6.4 TEARDOWN 1 OF 3
YouTube - 6.4 TEARDOWN 1 OF 3
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Thanks for the video. Overall, the gist of the video would suggest that
doing a DPF Delete is a Good Idea, but you'll have to accept the fact that
if you have engine or fuel problems, you might as well dig into your piggy
bank, because Ford's gonna tell you to blow smoke.
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Here is an interesting question... What about 3rd Party Warranty Policies?
If you get a Warranty, does Ford flagging my VIN matter? I'll just take my
truck to the Acme Diesel repair shop down the road and get whatever issue
resolved while having a DPF Delete installed, Ford's flagging doesn't mean squat.
Eventually all warranties run out, so in the end, one day you'll have to pay out of
pocket for something or another.
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Oh yeah,those warranties....the ones that will do any and everything they can to avoid paying for any kind of claim....you'll probably be just as successful as the next guy that didn't modify his federally mandated emissions equipment, or maybe not.
I guess the $2000-up questions is this...can you afford the repairs, or worst case, an engine replacement out of your pocket in one hit? That's what one must ask themselves.
JL
I guess the $2000-up questions is this...can you afford the repairs, or worst case, an engine replacement out of your pocket in one hit? That's what one must ask themselves.
JL