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It is important to understand what you are getting yourself into when removing the DPF and tuning your truck.
Yes you technically void your warranty, and anything that breaks that is related to that tune will definitely be your responsibility to pay for. If you choose to try and scam the dealer... well that is your choice and your personal values.
So the bottom line is... sit down and really think about all the positives and negatives of that comes out of removing the DPF/Cat and tuning your truck. To me, the added power and savings in fuel was a big seller. But what really did it for me, was the true enjoyment of driving the truck after it was tuned. I drive it a lot, 30K a year and every time I get in that truck I smile like a little kid. I would have loved the truck stock, but tuned... all I want to do is drive it!
Thanks. I have an 08 that I just recently purchased an extended warranty for. The truck is completly stock except for some tires and wheels. I wont be making any additional mods because I definately dont want any issues with Ford.
Thanks. I have an 08 that I just recently purchased an extended warranty for. The truck is completly stock except for some tires and wheels. I wont be making any additional mods because I definately dont want any issues with Ford.
Did you get the Ford extended? I think I might do that also, around $2200 right. It's either that or trade on a 2011 or delete the DPF, one of the three cause I'm not happy the way it is.
As I said before, I really thought hard about removing the dpf before I did it. Even though I am running a tuner I have it set for a low increase in power. Edge claims about 50hp. It has the ability to go higher (up to about 150hp) but that wasn't what I bought it for. I really do not believe in the restriction or the waste of fuel that this sytem does so I just wanted to delete the dpf. I read some of these guy's that are smoking the tires and racing at every intersection, I believe these are the ones that are going to have problems with their trucks. I enjoy better fuel mileage,way more response and way more fun to drive. I'm not racing it, but when I want to pull away from someone on a hill or a passing lane it is there.As for warranty, it seems that everytime I go in for something it seems it either just went past warranty, or it's not covered anyway. I think the truck is going to run better, longer anyway.Just my opinion with no regrets
On a recent camping trip, the truck went through regen 3 times in the 390 mile round trip. That's just rediculous to me for a 21,000 mile truck. My mileage pulling the camper was in the high 7mpg's.
When we go to Disneyworld next year, do I suffer restrictions and rediculous mileage or do I risk a mechanical issue and having a dealer flag my truck for life.
Just wondering. If a DPF delete is noticed by a Ford dealership, what parts of the warranty can be voided? All of it or just "pick and choose" areas?
Hat's off to you OP keep us posted on your performance and expierence. what's the doc? Cat converter? I have to start looking into doing this.
D.O.C.: Diesel Oxidation Catalyst (a.k.a. CAT)
I just spoke with my dealer about this whole thing. He said the warranty repair would have to be related directly to the mod to be denied. A dealer can pretty much deny a warranty repair for anything if they want to but it's only with them. There's not a way they can arbitrarily delete my truck warranty entirely for all the world to know.
As it stands right now, since I removed the dpf my meter (which I know can be inaccurate)is showing I am getting 16 miles per gallon. I haven't done any hand calculations yet or towed, but tomorrow will be a week without it and I know this is way better than I was getting.Keep in mind this mileage is showing just driving around town and back and forth to work.
I just spoke with my dealer about this whole thing. He said the warranty repair would have to be related directly to the mod to be denied. A dealer can pretty much deny a warranty repair for anything if they want to but it's only with them. There's not a way they can arbitrarily delete my truck warranty entirely for all the world to know.
You might want to look into that a little more. I was told by my dealer that I should only deal with them because if another dealer saw my mods they can flag my VIN # in Ford's system and every dealership after that would know about it. I don't think they would make that up. I've also heard the same thing from several guys on here.
and you'll need that warranty for the 15,000 engine replacement (not because of dpf removal just cause its a 6.4) did one 2 weeks ago.
So because it's a 6.4, the motor will blow? You would think someone who is a posting 'Guru' like yourself, would have something a little more informative to add to this convo than what some random troll might say from a chevy/dodge forum.
Either way thanks for your input, it was extremely helpful.
Also I have 30K miles on my truck in one year tuned running a 275hp tune and it has been flawless.
You might want to look into that a little more. I was told by my dealer that I should only deal with them because if another dealer saw my mods they can flag my VIN # in Ford's system and every dealership after that would know about it. I don't think they would make that up. I've also heard the same thing from several guys on here.
I originally thought the same thing. Especially with guys running big race tunes, Ford dealers were basically voiding warranties through some network system.
I'm supposed to take my wife's car in for service today. While there, I'l ask even more.
Yes and yes, and as a bonus it is a federal crime. I wouldn't worry too much about the federal crime part, but I think the warranty being voided could cost a lot of money. Lots of these guys say they can put the DPF back on and erase the tune, but that plan is full of holes. Like what if you're on the road or you have to be towed direct to the shop. Besides, I don't believe for a second that Ford can't tell that the turner was on there when the motor blew, and lastly it's fraud when you sign the waiver saying you are going to use the truck for off road only and it's fraud again if you remove the tuner and ask for warranty repairs. You could get caught. Other than that it seems like a good idea and there are alot of people doing it.
This should be archived and published as the standard response to anyone posting a "Do I remove the DPF?" or "What tuner should I get?" etc... questions. Well put Stanley.
I have to admit, I am getting tired of my stock 6.4. It runs hard and long with no issues as long as the radiator holds but the fuel consumption is really getting old. Costs me $80 to go 220 miles. But, to the 15,000 mile failure guy, I've got 149,800 right now and I'll run that thing at 220 degrees for 10 hours any day and every day I have to. Truck has made us a lot of money.
This should be archived and published as the standard response to anyone posting a "Do I remove the DPF?" or "What tuner should I get?" etc... questions. Well put Stanley.
I have to admit, I am getting tired of my stock 6.4. It runs hard and long with no issues as long as the radiator holds but the fuel consumption is really getting old. Costs me $80 to go 220 miles. But, to the 15,000 mile failure guy, I've got 149,800 right now and I'll run that thing at 220 degrees for 10 hours any day and every day I have to. Truck has made us a lot of money.
Your argument is understandable for the "tuner" remarks. But I think it's sensible to believe the automakers would rather do without the DPF or the Urea if it wasn't for the feds. Do we really think the DPF is there to make the truck more dependable or make it even better in the performance categories?
I'm not looking for a tuner to boost power in my truck. But if I could find a way to burn less fuel (you'd think the environuts would like that) and allow the truck to breathe easier with cleaner oil, a stock tune with no DPF "seems" to make good sense.
Check out the Edge race version, that's the one I bought. Part of the reason I did it was for that reason. I can delete dpf and still run it at stock, although I am finding better response and better mileage with a slight (50) hp tune