FICM relocation harness
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Big Cheese:
Not a problem: photograph the connectors for any identifying numbers and I can probably track them down.
There are only a handful of connector makers in the world that is trusted enough to supply to the auto trade for critical parts.
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Cheezit, why would I need to splice injectors? The FICM has 3 plugs, one to PCM, and one to each injector bank, correct? So I would need the longer FICM to injector bank harnesses from the E-series.
gearloose1, I understand your point on getting a new harness, and if the cost wasn't too high I would buy new (haven't checked yet). I've done enough wiring and electronics work that I'm fairly confident I can inspect a used harness. Besides, if I get it cheap used I can always throw it away and buy a new one.
gearloose1, I understand your point on getting a new harness, and if the cost wasn't too high I would buy new (haven't checked yet). I've done enough wiring and electronics work that I'm fairly confident I can inspect a used harness. Besides, if I get it cheap used I can always throw it away and buy a new one.
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Check the prices and post it ... will you?
Get us the list and dealer cost if you can.
I had a mild bit of chuckle reading the FICM modders threads where nowhere, not in a single post, did the modders thought that at the very least, the cabling need to be replaced with new... or gasp... replaced with much better cables.
Bet you the cables are not that expensive --- especially if bought from an International dealer (for the ones going to injectors).
I heard Ford is not charging a lot for the 6.0 harnesses either.
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From: N. Fort Worth, tx
yes the up side is if you find a complete harness from an e-van the harness has all 3 female plugs.
the truck harness is split 2 parts. main engine is one injector is the other.
then you would need to find a way to splice them or hook them together. you would be left with a bunch of splices or needing 3 male connectors that look just like the ficm side.
the truck harness is split 2 parts. main engine is one injector is the other.
then you would need to find a way to splice them or hook them together. you would be left with a bunch of splices or needing 3 male connectors that look just like the ficm side.
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Every splice is a potential point of failure....
"Thou shall not splice"
(unless it is absolutely necessary)...
Post Fiend
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From: N. Fort Worth, tx
No need to expaine that to me. thats a lot of wires and something I would not ever suggest. one to three wires not a big deal. 60 on the other hand I would not even think about.
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From: Stuttgart, Ar
I was afraid they were at least that much. I know a harness for a Bobcat skidsteer loader is, depending on the model, around 1000 with a similar number of connections. That in itself makes it cost prohibitive, for most of us at least.
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I agree 100% on the splicing. IMO, factory wires are too small to begin with, add the resistance of a splice and you can have issues. New plugs would be great, especially if they have room for slightly larger gauge wire.
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From: Woodbridge, Ontario, CA
I won't comment on the prices of parts, since they vary from region to region, but the part numbers are as follows:
For 2005 to 2007 F-Series trucks, the part numbers are as follows:
5C3Z-12B637-BA for the main engine harness
5C3Z-9D930-A for the FICM harness
On 2005 and up E-Series, a couple of the numbers are as follows:
5C2Z-12B637-SA for early 2005
6C2Z-12B637-UA for late 2006 and up
Bear in the mind, on E-Series applications, EVERYTHING is included all in one package, but I'm sure you are all already well aware of that. I believe the wiring is supplied by Delphi, which is now defunct if I understand correctly. With those part numbers, you should be able to determine the cost in your neck of the woods.
For 2005 to 2007 F-Series trucks, the part numbers are as follows:
5C3Z-12B637-BA for the main engine harness
5C3Z-9D930-A for the FICM harness
On 2005 and up E-Series, a couple of the numbers are as follows:
5C2Z-12B637-SA for early 2005
6C2Z-12B637-UA for late 2006 and up
Bear in the mind, on E-Series applications, EVERYTHING is included all in one package, but I'm sure you are all already well aware of that. I believe the wiring is supplied by Delphi, which is now defunct if I understand correctly. With those part numbers, you should be able to determine the cost in your neck of the woods.
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Delphi reincarnated into a going concern --- so there is no worries about parts they supplied.
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A easy to implement, interim solution may be to creating a mounting off the chassis for the FICM that takes it off the side of the engine but retain the original harnesses.
Then underneath it, a heat shield to deflect the heat fromt he engine.
Beyond that, you are talking about ducting cool air from the front (with a water trap) to cool it.
Then underneath it, a heat shield to deflect the heat fromt he engine.
Beyond that, you are talking about ducting cool air from the front (with a water trap) to cool it.
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From: Corvallis, OR
Yes, a heat shield and reducing vibrations would help a lot. I would want to move it to the inner fender to make swapping it out easier, but then the leads get longer which could cause more issues.
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Take away the heat, vibration, and you got a lot more margin to play with in the FICM.
Mind you... there will be more cable flex from engine moving around.. but that can be manageable.