It was an 03 7.3. It had about 20K miles on it and my truck had only 10K. So i picked the newer that was much more fun to drive. As i said, in spite of the costly repairs, they are not that often, it still drives great, and its cheaper to fix than buying a new one. (Though the new 6.4s look very nice, and I am extremly tempted, but logic and reason prevails at this time)

 

Just curious...

Thanks azchris!

 

Tex,
Let us know when you decide to step into the Lions Den "aka RVnet" and defend the 6.0 reputation if you really can't take it anymore! Not to sound crual or such! If your successful there I'll line up some more forums for you.

Those RV pulling guys don't give the 6.0 psd guys any slack! Tough bunch over there.
Troy

 

If they aren't going to be open minded and hear all that needs to be said before they pass judgment then I can already tell you it isn't going to work.

 

See that's where the challenge is. To convince those trailer pulling Dodge boys to give the 6.0 psd guys a break and maybe some respect if your really persistant.

Rickatic is having to hold down the fort over their.

 

wonder if I should go visit?

 

Now thats the spirit cheezit... Wouldn't that be a rude awakening for those guys. The 6.7 guys maybe a little easier to break than the 5.9 guys.

 

see here my view the 5.9 was about on par with the 7.3. they are by todays standards both boat anchors engines with much outdated technology. They were as well as ford forced to in to the emmision's world. This advent brought us the wonderfull duramax injector failing limp load machine, the 6.7 isb famous for egr,doc,dpf, valve seats dropping ,clutch issues, a crappy autotrans and failing turbos (this is really better then 6.0?). and of corse what we all know about a 6.0 wich is..... out sold the compition 3:1
for one reason WE SUCK LESS! lmao

 

I've posted my fair share over there in the past. It's not wasted time if it gets them in an uproar. Let's see if we can get something going..

 

Let me get this right, if you following the owners manual like it's part of the Bible/10 Commandments....for any 6.0L your still doomed?Oh crap, I'd better park my '04 and call a taxi so I can get to work on time in the morning.

Umm, I'm going to regret this...I know I will...but 8 years ago I was working for a Cat dealership in the rental department. We had a '99 F350 for the "small stuff". The dispatcher was a card carrying "bow tie boy"...a long with one of the guys that drove the truck often. Neither one of them believed in PM, or routine oil changes; and they would go out of their way to inflect some "pain" to this truck just because it had a blue oval on it. Anyway, this guy would rag about how the F350 was always in the shop getting injectors, or turbo or what ever and it was a piece of junk. I asked him one day when was the last time the truck had an oil change. Appearantly...from his "beating around the bush" reply...only when it was at the dealership with an issue. In '03 when the company replaced the '99 with a '04 I took it upon myself to make sure the truck was getting the PM that it need for the severe life it was living (5k mile servicings). Would you believe the first time the truck was in the shop was for tires? Oil changes/fuel filter/PM don't count in my book as shop time.Anything written in Diesel Power is half truths. That magazine is out there to sell copies...not sell trucks. Ever notice that every time they have some project and a shop is involved...it's never the same shop? I'll let the numbers speak for them selves...there are more SD out there than Chevy's & Dodges. I wonder why?The only thing the two have in common is the truck they're put in and who built them. Yeah, they burn the same fuel, but the that's about it. I'm not about to knock a 7.3L, it did everything that was expected of it. The 6.0L did that and more...and because of those requirements...it had a couple more issues than the 7.3L PSD. Which if I remember right, had a longer development time. From what I've been hearing...the 6.0L can't even hold a candle to the 6.4L in the "issues department". Does that mean the 6.4L is a piece of junk? Don't know, don't own one, don't want one (I dis-like the SD body style the 6.4L comes in)...and most likely will never drive one. I have no plans of replacing my '04.Granted I've only driven two ***-a-parts any real distance (more then 300 miles). The ISX they put in Class 6, 7 & 8 trucks is/was a real piece of junk. The one I had when I worked for Xpedx burned up 3 EGR valves within 40k miles. The guys at the Navistar dealership acted like it was no big deal. Check the oil, replace the EGR valve seemed to be status quo there around 2005. The diesel world was screwed when Tier 2 mandates were forced upon us all. Don't get me wrong, we all need clean air to breath...but to me there's a point were you've crossed the line. When the exhaust is cleaner than the air that went into the mill...don't you think you've taken it far enough?That, ladies and gentleman...is a spin doctor at work! Have you ever thought about running for office?

 

My personal opinion is that every engine sucks in its own way nothing is perfect because it was built by humans. The real question is what do you want to drive? I also work on these engines everyday and cummins, powerstrokes, cats ect all show up in the same quantity. The all have issues. Being The ISX was EGR valves. The 6.0 was from my aspect injectors. The 4th 5.9 and 6.7 egr valves and injectors. The 6.4 is regeneration failures. The new ISX15 still egr valves. The 7.3 was oil leaks and the dreaded oil pan. The 3 gen 5.9 was lift pumps and injection pumps. Cat acerts where exhaust manifold leaks and after coolers. So they all really have issues of there own i could go on for hours. Its all in what you want to own and work on. It may sound funny but ill take an IC school bus with a 466/365/maxx7/vt365 anyday of the week cause thats what i like to work on best.

 

Man can invent the "perfect" mouse trap.....and man can find a way to screw it up!

In my world, logging on the wild west coast.....I dare anyone to find a better truck than the Ford Powerstroke.....it is by far the dominant and most widely used truck in our environment.

Our fleet of approximatley 25 pickups include the 7.3, 6.0, 6.4, and yes some V-10's.
Ask our mechanics what the most reliable has been......yep, you guessed it, the 6.0's.

And for the record....this 07 I have now and my prior 04 have been great trucks. I agree with Bismic that these engines when driven and maintained with the full emissions systems intact are still reliable.

I find that way to many gasser owners purchase these diesels totally ignorant of what is required to look after them.

I am looking at the new 6.7......but my heart is still with the 6.0's.

I just remind myself......never fly the A model of anything !!!!???

 

I thought i was the only one...

That was a post of mine from the 6.7 forum, which got laughed at. It's not just on FTE though. I hate the look i get when i tell people i drive a 6.0, and even worse the look i get when i tell them i could out run them, out pull them, and do it all while getting better fuel mileage than them. I have owned a 7.3, and i grew up riding in a 6.9L and 7.3 IDI, so i may be a little ford biased, but i replaced my HPOP and Oil Cooler 3 weeks after i purchased my truck used and still couldn't imagine driving a different pickup.

 

Same here. It was my granddad's '85 F-250. It would rattle the teeth right out of your head, but it got the job done.

 

Man from time to time we get one of those draged in to the dealer. Its gotten to the point were I just tell them sorry ford no longer supports it after 10 years, no books no tools for them.