You Betty White.

 

I've never seen Ford publish year by year break downs of the 6.0 warranty claims. All I know is that 6.0L warranty claims are highest Ford has ever seen, and 6.0L repairs (including the later models) are keeping the diesel techs very busy to this day.

The 7.3 never saw the kind of shop time the 6.0/6.4s did and still do on average, and I absolutely do not believe the later model 6.0Ls have lower warranty claims than the 7.3, if warranty claims are restricted to the powertrain assembly and its ancillaries.

 

The most recent statement was a couple of months ago. One of the truck/car trade magazines did an interview with one of the 2011 SD engineers. They were talking about Ford's decision to develop the 6.7 in-house. The reporter said something about Ford was trying to get away from the bad legacy of the 6.0 with a clean sheet design. The engineer answered by saying that no, that wasn't the reason. That the warranty claims on the later model 6.0 was actually lower than the 7.3.

Now this statement obviously could be putting lipstick on a pig, or it could be true.

Under the circumstances, it sounds to me like the engineer had been spending some time at the cosmetics counter.

 

I've owned my 2000 superduty for 9 years. 178,000 miles, i've had to put a tranny and a belt tensioner on it, and a set of ball joints. Although it is starting to loose a couple of injectors, it still gets 17-20 mpg. My boss swears by the chevies. He averages 10.5 mpg. They start loosing the front ends around 40,000-60,000 miles. He never keeps them past 70,000 miles. We also have a 2001 dodge that has 184,000 miles, never done nothing to the motor, but have had the front end rebuilt 3 times. It gets 15-16 mpg pretty consistantly. My boss just traded a 2005 dodge for his new chevy. It had 108,000 miles on it and you couldn't keep oil in it, a 60 mile trip was 3 gallons of oil(serious blow by). It got two rear mains, a waterpump, alternator, ac pump, front end rebuild(ball joints, tierods, ect).

I believe that the days of a reliable diesel are gone, the minute they started putting egr valves on diesels was the last day they were reliable. Putting a diesel through emissions testing? Diesels have always been more efficient then gas motors. Tree huggers are just trying get money to keep their battle going.

I hope that Ford has figured out their new superduty. It looks to have a far better motor then the 6.0 and the 6.4. As far of the look, i kind of like it. I'll let them work the bugs out of it for a couple of years before i consider buying one. Meanwhile i will be driving my 2000 superduty.

 

Gungho351 I think you are right and I say the same thing about the reliability of diesel engines these days. They are not holding up long like one would think they should. I read all the time about injectors going out, turbos, this being clogged with crap and this being bad. All has to do with the emissions the engines are forced to have. TO HELL WITH THE EPA AND ENVIRO NUT JOBS! Then you put $7k for the diesel to only have to pay out more for service on them. Buy a big gas job and save lots of money for gas. More reliable and easier to work on.......I honestly hope this Ford diesel just is the answer to everyones issues with diesels and they kick some a$$ with it!

 

How many times do we have to hear about the doors? you have spammed a dozen times about that ridiculous statement. Everyone already knows the cab and doors are unchanged, and so did you. So don't post that you "just noticed" this.

 

I used to think that until i bought my 04 F350 with the dreaded 6.0L. Towing 10K lbs up Sunset Point here in Arizona used to be a struggle with my F-250 with a 460 in it. I was lucky to drive it at 40 MPH with my foot floored on the gas pedal. And only getting 5 mpg. Now i can make that same trip driving 65-70 MPH, only having to slow down for Semis and Getting 12-13 MPG. The joy in driving that more than makes up for the increased cost of the Diesel and since I plan on keeping this truck (149K Miles) for another 5 Years, I believe my cost to operate and probably better than the gasser i had.

Though i do wish i could pick up a new F-450 - Those things look SWEEEETTTTTTTTT!!

AZChris

 

I drove one this week. It was 60K WOW.
After I got past the shock of the price tag I was simply amazed!
Awesome power, Awesome quiet, Awesome MPG, Awesome ride, Awesome bells and whistles. This truck is the total package.

Good thing I still am deeply in love with my truck; because I can not afford the 60K price of the 2011 Lariet. And then spend 8K on the things I consider esential to a truck.

68K total by the time I put all the add-ons in it.

wonder how it will run in the winter time.

 

What are your essentials that go for 8K? I always love hearing about new ways to blow my hard earned money hahaha.

 

Statics from where? I am not trying to start a fight, but i have owned a 6.0 for just a mere 3 months but i have driven one as a work truck for years, but i promise you between these two trucks they have seen every scenario from freezing temperatures, high altitudes, heavy loads and a few 95 plus mile an hour adventures to dead stopped traffic and 10 hour trips and i have to admit they're pretty impressive. I'm not saying that there are no weak points in a 6.0 but i have seen more than one 7.3 parked because of a camshaft positioning sensor and numerous "50cent" fixes to hold the UVCH connector in place (or a chevy 6.2 or cummins with a bad injection pump etc etc the list goes on). The fact of the matter is that these diesel trucks were designed to be the workhorses that everybody knows they can be, they just require regular maintenance and a watchful ear and eye. I will admit that my truck has had its share of problems, but i bought it used, and all of the problems were fixed. I guess the point im trying to get across is every truck will have its demons but thats why websites such as FTE are around to help distribute the information and make the experience of owning one of these trucks just that much better.

 

ahahahahaha!!! ford will always haul more than dodges, fords are the best, dodges need trannys, or ZF's to last.

 

There are good 6.0s out there in the world apparently, but visit ANY shop in America that wrenches on diesels and I don't think you'll find a single diesel tech with some experience under his belt that will argue a 6.0/6.4 is as reliable as a 7.3, or anywhere close to it.

Even when you address all of the 6.0's weak spots (EGR/cooler, head bolts, etc.) it still doesn't have the lifespan in it a 7.3 does. That wonderful valve actuation setup prevents that, and yet another point Ford addressed on the 6.7 with 32 individual pushrods and rockers.

 

Not sure I follow on the 7.3 valve actuation vs. the 6.7 pushrods. Is the 6.7L superior to the 7.3 in this way? How do those parts work?