lugnut removal
Senior User
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 247
Likes: 0
From: Granger IA
This discussion never fails to start an argument. It comes down to whether you accept testimonials from guys that haven't had a problem, or maybe who learned their trade by OJT from the older guys out in the shop, or whether you accept the guidelines published by every manufacturer. Stu
The ONLY thing that is permitted on the wheel studs is TWO and I mean TWO, drops of light oil on the very last two threads of the stud. If you use an anti-seize or oil on all of the threads or most of them, you will in effect create a more efficient slip between the threads which can multiply torque values during reassembly. I have been on a number of broken stud visits in which my findings have pointed directly to technicians lubricating the stud with oil or anti corrosive pastes.
I always teach in my classes that its better to ensure that the threads of both the nut and the studs are clean, a wire brush will take care of that. Once the threads are clean you can forget the oil bussiness I mentioned above. Its more importanat to make sure the threads are clean!
Studs have a anti corrosive coating on them. If the studs you are working with are very old or you suspect that the coating is LONG gone it is best to replace the studs and avoid the head aches.
Steve, let us know how you made out!
Thread Starter
|
Cargo Master
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 2,661
Likes: 23
lol remember when this was about getting off those lug nuts?
And... ah crap I think you're right. Worst part is I CHECKED before I started to turn, and I know this as I found it interesting when I put them on! Well at least I only tightened one to absolute death...
And... ah crap I think you're right. Worst part is I CHECKED before I started to turn, and I know this as I found it interesting when I put them on! Well at least I only tightened one to absolute death...
Posting Guru
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 2,138
Likes: 2
From: Marietta, Ohio
Sure... Jump right in, so far as I can tell knowledge has never been an absolute requirement here, but body armor and a helmet might come in handy...
Marmon-Herrington Man
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 11,986
Likes: 446
From: Central Illinois
Does your company use this standard for both stud piloted and hub piloted applications, or just hub piloted? If both that would be a change from what my older references say. Stud piloted have always had a dry standard. And if that applies to both type mounts, what torque standards do you use for each? Stu
Junior User
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 57
Likes: 0
From: Chicago, IL
The best solution
I like Dave's solution
Work smarter not harder! The Trucks work hard enough for us! 
take the thing to a truck tire shop and they will have them off in no time and probably only charge you twenty bucks.
Thread Starter
|
Cargo Master
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 2,661
Likes: 23
lol $20? Right now I'm being so nickled and dimed on the project it's unbelievable, I'd have to be out there all day for $20 for this project, lol
FTE Stories
Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts
Top 10 Fords at 2026 Carlisle Ford Nationals
Joe Kucinski
3 Best / 3 Worst Parts of Modern Ford Ownership
Brett Foote
10 Amazing Upgrades That Solve Common Ford Truck Owner Headaches
Pouria Savadkouei
Every 2026 Ford Engine Explained
Brett Foote
10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love
Joe Kucinski
10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)
Michael S. Palmer
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath
Verdad Gallardo
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer
Joe Kucinski
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)
Brett Foote
Posting Guru
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 2,138
Likes: 2
From: Marietta, Ohio
Later Man...
Junior User
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 57
Likes: 0
From: Chicago, IL
Nickles and Dimes
My step-dad used to say that about his old fords
"These damm things will nickle and dime you to death".
which reminds me of those lovely Ford Acronyms!
Ford = Fixed Or RePaired Daily
"These damm things will nickle and dime you to death".
which reminds me of those lovely Ford Acronyms!
Ford = Fixed Or RePaired Daily
Junior User
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 57
Likes: 0
From: Chicago, IL
Cost of Driving a Vintage Vehicle
Unless you let it sit, any vehicle that is driven requires maintenance. With these old Trucks, instead of paying the bank, you pay the mechanic.
and you gotta pay to drive.
I remember in one of my automotive classes, there was a calculation for breaking down the average cost per mile based on the cost of the vehicle, maintenance required, vehicles life expectency, ect..
and you gotta pay to drive.
I remember in one of my automotive classes, there was a calculation for breaking down the average cost per mile based on the cost of the vehicle, maintenance required, vehicles life expectency, ect..
Fleet Owner
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 27,299
Likes: 1,059
From: NM
The only thing is, what do you do when they get the nuts off? Are they just going to re-install them loose? Owning a Big Truck requires certain investments, a way to remove the wheels for routine brake and suspension work is probably an important one. Then you can figure out how to manhandle them up onto the studs -- not like doing a 14" alloy wheel on a Honda!
Senior User
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 247
Likes: 0
From: Granger IA
Does your company use this standard for both stud piloted and hub piloted applications, or just hub piloted? If both that would be a change from what my older references say. Stud piloted have always had a dry standard. And if that applies to both type mounts, what torque standards do you use for each? Stu
On the HP mounting system the nuts are flange nuts so you are also allowed to lubricate the joint between the flange and the nut.
more than you ever wanted to know about nutz!!!
Elder User
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 547
Likes: 0
well i guess im on the opposite end of the spectrum of you guys... i work at a factory manufacturing farm equipment and we usr large wheels/tires (22.5 wheels) on8 or 10 bolt hubs, the boss says loctite EVERYTHING, studs included. also being a farmer on the side, i know i woukd be very irked trying to remove a loctited 1.5" lugnut, let alone 40 of them! even with my nice 1/2" air impact. ( we use a 1" impact at work)
Fleet Owner
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 27,299
Likes: 1,059
From: NM
well i guess im on the opposite end of the spectrum of you guys... i work at a factory manufacturing farm equipment and we usr large wheels/tires (22.5 wheels) on8 or 10 bolt hubs, the boss says loctite EVERYTHING, studs included. also being a farmer on the side, i know i woukd be very irked trying to remove a loctited 1.5" lugnut, let alone 40 of them! even with my nice 1/2" air impact. ( we use a 1" impact at work)