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Old May 26, 2010 | 08:47 PM
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want to run a cam i pickd up it has a 290/302 duration and a 536/543 lift what would be a good head to run with a cam that size i have a 351m can i run stock valves with a valve spring up grade
 
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Old May 26, 2010 | 08:54 PM
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its made by crower
 
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Old May 26, 2010 | 09:52 PM
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want to run a cam i pickd up it has a 290/302 duration and a 536/543 lift what would be a good head to run with a cam that size i have a 351m can i run stock valves with a valve spring up grade
Could you? yes,.. but I would not. at least not if you had the multi grove valves and locks.


I like and have run these single groove: (they are great for the money)
Performance Valves, Ford 351C 2V, 2.041/1.655, 351/400M: eBay Motors (item 370369481071 end time May-06-10 17:34:56 PDT)
 
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Old May 27, 2010 | 10:23 AM
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In my opinion, that camshaft is too big for your 351m, specially since you need at least 9.5:1 to be able to put that camshaft in good range....
 
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Old May 27, 2010 | 10:35 PM
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crower makes a complete engine kit for the 351m i found out today iam gooing to do a block up build i am putting in 77 f250 on loader axles with 58 aggie tires
 
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Old May 28, 2010 | 12:28 AM
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woa, if you are doin g a complete build up, please at least turn it into a 400, you only need a 400 crank and pistons, also high compression pistons can be got from tim meyer, talk to him TMeyer, Inc. Precision Automotive Machining
 
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Old Jun 1, 2010 | 01:07 AM
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the crank on a 351m and 400 are the same its the rods that are different they bolth have journal diameter of 3.000 main and 2.311 connecting rod diameter in inches the 351m has a stroke of 3.50 in and the 400 has a 4.00 in stroke the kit comes with 400 rods or 351m rods depending on what you order
 
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Old Jun 1, 2010 | 08:08 AM
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Nope, wrong, the 351m and the 400 use the SAME rods, the difference is the crankshaft and pistons, the crank gives the stroke not the pistons, be carefull with this..
 
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There is a lot of good information on the net about building a nice 400. Seek and you shall find. A good set of closed chamber heads will help get you to the compression you want fast. Look up MPG heads.
 
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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 02:44 AM
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ive got a old service manual from a buddy of mines grandfather thats on 351m /400 that says the crank s in the 351m are the same even gives the same # for bolth cranks really weird i scan a copy of the page today at the shop for u to check out it says that the rods are the diffference not the crank the book was made in 1972 what ever the case is iam going to get tthe kit for a 400
 
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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 10:14 AM
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M-Block 351M/400 History

Th whole story, read where 351ms are introduced,

351M/400 Performance Build Up

Read adding more cubic inches section,


Your manual is WRONG, so again be carefull in what you order, since it may not contain a crank shaft or thepistons needed
 
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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 10:17 AM
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the cranks are different that is what gives them strokes listen to what people are telling you
 
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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 11:07 AM
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The crankshafts are different in rod throw heights,and that changes the stroke length.The 351m pistons also use a different compression height.The only common thread in the two crankshafts is the journal diameters.The connecting rods are the same center to center length.If you are going to build a 400,you will need a 400 crank and pistons.
 
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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 08:55 PM
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order my kit today with a 4340 chrome alloy crank for a 400 and pistons for a 400 along with everything else rods bearing etc and the cranks are different this book is junk it was printed by hp books how to rebuild your 351c 351m/400/429/460 they have alot more info way wrong the 351c never was made in michigan foundry according to this book they were is this rite iam not sure ? i went 40 over on the pistons hope i dont run into cooling issue still not sure about heads i woul really like to get 600 plus hp is this possible out of a 400
 
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Old Jun 4, 2010 | 11:00 AM
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......i woul really like to get 600 plus hp is this possible out of a 400
Very possible. You have to get the compression and flow right and 600 is a good target.
check in with TMI (tim meyer inc) for more info on 400s that is where I got parts for mine. he may be able to help.
 
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