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Old May 16, 2010 | 06:10 AM
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Upping the Alternator Output ...

I'm looking at putting a mega cooling fan (electric) on my 1996 F150 and I want some thing that "just bolts up" in the place of the current one.

mralternator.com

Advertises ones that range in output from 133 to 200 amps.

Anybody deal with them / try their stuff / have recommendations on other vendors or alternative part numbers to use?

Do higher output units tend to come with any better quality / survive wear and tear better?

Like: If you only need a 133, but put in a 200, would you have any reason to expect the bearings / other parts would last longer because the alternator was operating far from capacity?
 
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Old May 16, 2010 | 12:07 PM
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Ryan (aka Fireguy50) at RJM offers high output 3G alternators and accessories at a reasonable price: RJM Technologies High Power Alternators

I see no reason why a 200 AMP alternator would last any longer than the 130 AMP models from a given manufacturer. It's usually the electronics side that is "beefed up" not the mechanical portion. If your power needs are always 130+ AMPs, meaning 100% duty cycle, then it would behoove you to look for something with more rated output. Running anything at 100% of it's rated output will shorten it's life considerably.
 
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Old May 16, 2010 | 12:23 PM
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So 3G is generic, an under driven alternator? Only made by Ford? A higher output introduced by Fords for the Mustang? I'm confused about the difference between 2G and 3G.
 
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Old May 16, 2010 | 02:32 PM
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Ford replaced the inefficient (and fire prone) 2G alternators with the 3G version around 1991. The 3G is used in many different Ford vehicles including you '96 F-150. It's a good alternator to swap to for older vehicles. As noted in the information at RJM Technologies there are versions available with a higher output.

Is it necessary for your Mega fan conversion? Hard to say without knowing what the current draw is on it as well as what other devices you may have installed and their current draw.
 
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Old May 16, 2010 | 03:10 PM
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Is it necessary for your Mega fan conversion? Hard to say without knowing what the current draw is on it as well as what other devices you may have installed and their current draw.
If I already have 130amp then that does change the question a bit.

The other thing I'm looking at is supporting an even more radical AC setup, not running a compressor off of the engine:

"Keeping your cool" challenge ...

That would be another 20 to 40 amps. I don't have that sorted out just yet!
 
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Old May 16, 2010 | 03:25 PM
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Ive had my 200 amp alternator for about a year now with no problems.

Got it from
romeo electrical items - Get great deals on 3G alternator, eBay Motors items on eBay.com!

Mine puts out more at idle than my stocker did max.
 
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Old May 16, 2010 | 04:24 PM
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The other option I considered was sort of a special one. If I dump my decrepit FS10 in favor of a electric compressor of some sort, I might like to run a 2nd alternator in the position previously occupied by the AC compressor.<br /><br />Is there any bracket kit I can buy that would help with that?
 
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Old May 16, 2010 | 10:15 PM
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I"m running a 1987 F250 Diesel. I changed my alternator from the original 75 amp 2G to the 130 amp 3G that came off a 1993 Ford Taurus. Works fine and cost less than $50.00.
 
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[quote=86F150302;8894771]Ive had my 200 amp alternator for about a year now with no problems.

87-93 Ford Mustang 3G Alternator Upgrade Kit 200 AMP 79

Would this do me? Which of the other parts of the kit can / can't I use?
 
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Old May 17, 2010 | 09:05 AM
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Not sure if the mustang and F-150 alternator brackets are the same but would assume they would be since the mustangs had 302's just like the trucks of the same vintage. You should be fine with that 200 amp kit. You may just want to email the seller to make sure the kit would be ok... They may make a F-150 upgrade kit. The cables could be shorter or longer depending on where the mustang battery was placed.
 
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Originally Posted by 86F150302
Ive had my 200 amp alternator for about a year now with no problems.

87-93 Ford Mustang 3G Alternator Upgrade Kit 200 AMP 79

Would this do me? Which of the other parts of the kit can / can't I use?
Yes. You also might need a goodyear gatorback belt.


I didnt use his wiring though. I did mine myself.
 
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Old May 17, 2010 | 08:12 PM
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Pretty sure this is mentioned on Ryan's site, but you will never get the full 200 amps with a 6 rib serp belt. It will only be able to put out around 180 amps max with a 6 rib belt. Why pay for 200 amps if you'll never get it? Just saying.
 
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